在市场处于历史新高时的投资思考。

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在市场处于历史新高时期,因为实际的股票买卖操作几乎没有,所以能够有更多的时间思考自己的投资策略,为未来的投资做好准备。

At Berkshire we focus almost exclusively on the valuations of individual companies, looking only to a very limited extent at the valuation of the overall market. Even then, valuing the market has nothing to do with where it's going to go next week or next month or next year, a line of thought we never get into. The fact is that markets behave in ways, sometimes for a very long stretch, that are not linked to value. Sooner or later, though, value counts. - 巴菲特1999年公开演讲

“If you’re an investor, you’re looking on what the asset is going to do;if you’re a speculator,
you’re commonly focusing on what the price of the object is going to do, and that’s not our game.”  - Warren Buffett

既然参与市场,就是市场的一部分,当然或多或少会受到市场波动的影响,但是做为主动型集中模式的个股投资者,市场波动对投资的关联度并不大。如果接受市场短期不可精确预测,而且也不是投资的必要前提,那么整体市场的高低就不是思考的重点,也不是投资决策的重要因素。
无论整体市场处于高位还是低位,始终如一的遵守投资的基本原则和自己选择的长期投资策略。

The market is there to serve you, not to inform you.
 
最后但最重要的,同时也是最少见的一项特质:在投资过程中,大起大落之中却丝毫不改投资思路的能力。这对于大多数人而言几乎是不可能做到的。当股票开始下跌,人们很难坚持承受损失而不抛出股票。市场整体下降时,人们很难决定买进更多股票以使成本摊薄,甚至很难决定将钱再投入股票中。人们不喜欢承受暂时性的痛苦,即便从长远来看会有更好的收益。很少有投资家能应对高回报率所必须经历的短期波动。他们将短期波动等同于风险。这是极不理性的。风险意味着你若押错了宝,就得赔钱。而相对短时期内的上下波动并不等于损失,因此也不是风险,除非你在市场跌到谷底时陷入恐慌,被损失吓得大乱阵脚。但是多数人不会以这种方式看问题,他们的大脑不容许他们这么想。恐慌本能会入侵,然后切断正常思考的能力。- 马克·塞勒尔哈佛演讲
 
“Unless you can watch your stock holding decline by 50% without becoming panic-stricken,
you should not be in the stock market.”  - 巴菲特

老巴根据自己几十年的投资经验,告诫大家要有面对50%Down的心理准备。股市短期价格波动,受投资者情绪影响很大,所以大幅度的价格波动在股市中是一件极其平常的事。

"The very liquidity of stock markets causes people to focus on price action. If you buy an apartment house, if you buy a farm, if you buy a McDonald's franchise you don't think about what it's going sell for tomorrow or next week, or next month, you think about how is this business going to do. But stocks with this huge liquidity suck people in and they turn what should be an advantage into a disadvantage."  - 芒格 
 

 
 

个股与整体市场波动的对比, 基本上一个投资者一生经历的最大级别的市场波动都比不上个股年均50%以上的波动。这也说明了整体市场的波动对个股的影响有限。

 个股的市场波动为投资者提供了非常充裕的投资机会,年年都有,不像熊市的波动要许多年才有一次。

 

2011年,老巴印度之行的谈话

“If you look at the typical stock on the New York Stock Exchange, its high will be, perhaps, for the last 12 months will be 150 percent of its low so they’re bobbing all over the place. All you have to do is sit there and wait until something is really attractive that you understand.”

“There’s almost nothing where the game is stacked more in your favor like the stock market”

“What happens is people start listening to everybody talk on television or whatever it may be or read the paper, and they take what is a fundamental advantage and turn it into a disadvantage. There’s no easier game than stocks. You have to be sure you don’t play it too often”

 


 

个股投资者每年都可以有较大的概率找到合适的投资机会,即使是在股市处于高位时期。我觉得这一点比较重要,这说明无论我是在哪一个年代开始投资, 我都可以在短期内(1年)寻找到合适的投资机会。

假设我的投资组合有12个股票,那么在2018年平均每一个月我都有可能遇到一次合适的投资机会(50%的波动幅度),这样的投资机会就发生在我非常熟悉的投资标的之中。我不可能成功抓住每次的机会,但是一年一二次还是有可能的。

 

How many insights do you need? Well, I'd argue: that you don't need many in a lifetime. If you look at Berkshire Hathaway and all of its accumulated billions, the top ten insights account for most of it. And that's with a very brilliant man Warren's a lot more able than I am and very disciplined devoting his lifetime to it. I don't mean to say that he's only had ten insights. I'm just saying, that most of the money came from ten insights.

So you can get very remarkable investment results if you think more like a winning pari-mutuel player. Just think of it as a heavy odds against game full of craziness with an occasional mispriced something or other. And you're probably not going to be smart enough to find thousands in a lifetime. And when you get a few, you really load up. It's just that simple.   芒格的演讲 ART OF STOCK PICKING

一个投资者并不需要频繁的成功投资交易,才能取得满意投资回报。

“真正的大机会,把握住一次足以改变境遇;把握住两次将开启全新的人生;把握住三次整个家族都会不同。“ - 水晶苍蝇拍

2016年成功重仓DRG一次,可以获得相当于一个普通加国工薪家庭收入的现金流,这个投资成果可以享受许多年。 

在2016年初的股市低位之后,下半年加国市场的一,二线的蓝筹股中出现大幅度涨幅的有

MFC, SLF,POW, DRG, AX。。。。。。

2017年同样的

BMO, CM, REI-un。。。。。

这些都是加国市场上大家最熟悉的蓝筹股。

我想信在2018年,在这些加国市场上大家最熟悉的蓝筹股中,一定会出现与2016,2017类似的投资机会。

对投资者而言,无论市场在何种状态,投资机会永远存在 。
 

所有跟帖: 

书生高手, 能达到知行合一。 -言身寸- 给 言身寸 发送悄悄话 (152 bytes) () 12/08/2017 postreply 15:22:26

”知行合一”,你这个词用得特别好好!你的ID也很独特,妙! -sisizy- 给 sisizy 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 12/08/2017 postreply 15:29:21

can you put English or Chinese, not both? -Tianyazi- 给 Tianyazi 发送悄悄话 Tianyazi 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 12/08/2017 postreply 15:31:12

有些参考资料自己只有英文版,没有中文版的。 -股市小书生- 给 股市小书生 发送悄悄话 股市小书生 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 12/08/2017 postreply 15:37:57

有一点有矛盾啊。股市在顶部,就算个股有机会出现,光思考不买卖也抓不住机会啊。 -LIZAR- 给 LIZAR 发送悄悄话 LIZAR 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 12/08/2017 postreply 16:15:45

楼主不买卖,可以理解为你作为长期投资者,仓位没有因为高位而减少吗? -LIZAR- 给 LIZAR 发送悄悄话 LIZAR 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 12/08/2017 postreply 16:17:56

这里思考的结论是个股波动与市场波动的关联度不大。 -股市小书生- 给 股市小书生 发送悄悄话 股市小书生 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 12/08/2017 postreply 16:27:26

书生以前的帖子提过 -Mcmurray- 给 Mcmurray 发送悄悄话 (71 bytes) () 12/08/2017 postreply 17:48:08

谢谢 -LIZAR- 给 LIZAR 发送悄悄话 LIZAR 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 12/08/2017 postreply 18:41:00

这里的卖出一部分与市场的高低没有直接的联系,目的是主动取得理想投资安全边际,在卖出的决定中不考虑市场的因素。 -股市小书生- 给 股市小书生 发送悄悄话 股市小书生 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 12/08/2017 postreply 19:10:37

好贴,谢分享. -robato- 给 robato 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 12/08/2017 postreply 18:44:16

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