我再转贴一下周五的一个帖子。美国的情报没问题,伊拉克确实有未销毁的WMD,当时没搜到而已。

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回答: They also told us Iraq had WMD, then we all25442017-04-09 17:53:30

Iraq and weapons of mass destruction

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Iraq's military arsenal included weapons of mass destruction (biological and chemical) starting from 1960s, effectively ending with its near total destruction in the 1990s. Iraq used chemical weapons on multiple occasions, both domestically and in the war against Iran. After the first Gulf War in 1991, the UN Security Council required Iraq to eliminate its chemical, biological and previously unknown nuclear weapon programs under UN verification. Iraq was subsequently accused of having restarted its WMD programs, which was the principal justification for the 2003 invasion of Iraq by the United States and a number of its allies.

The fifth president of IraqSaddam Hussein,[1] was internationally condemned for his use of chemical weapons during the 1980s campaign against Iranian and Kurdish civilians during and after the Iran–Iraq War. In the 1980s, Saddam pursued an extensive biological weapons program and a nuclear weapons program, though no nuclear bomb was built.

After the Persian Gulf War, the United Nations located and destroyed large quantities of Iraqi chemical weapons and related equipment and materials throughout the early 1990s, with varying degrees of Iraqi cooperation and obstruction.[2] In response to diminishing Iraqi cooperation with UNSCOM, the United States called for withdrawal of all UN and IAEA inspectors in 1998, resulting in Operation Desert Fox. The 1999 disarmament report by UNSCOM listed large quantities of WMD material that was unaccounted for.[3]

The United States and the UK asserted that Saddam Hussein still possessed large hidden stockpiles of weapons of mass destruction (WMD) in 2003, and that he was clandestinely procuring and producing more. Inspections by the UN to resolve the status of unresolved disarmament questions restarted between November 2002 and March 2003,[4] under UN Security Council Resolution 1441, which demanded Saddam give "immediate, unconditional and active cooperation" with UN and IAEA inspections, shortly before his country was attacked.[5]

In March 2003 Chief inspector Hans Blix stated that Iraq had made "significant progress" toward resolving a number of key disarmament tasks, noting the "proactive" but not always "immediate" cooperation as called for by UN Security Council Resolution 1441. In the event of proactive Iraqi cooperation, he said it would take "but months" to resolve the key remaining disarmament tasks.[6] However, in his May 2003 report to the U.N., Blix said that his team had made "little progress" accounting for other materials which Iraq claims to have unilaterally destroyed.[7] The United States asserted this was a breach of Resolution 1441, but failed to convince the UN Security Council to pass a new resolution authorizing the use of force due to lack of evidence.[8][9][10]

Despite being unable to get a new resolution authorizing force and citing section 3 of the Joint Resolution passed by the U.S. Congress,[11] President George W. Bush asserted peaceful measures could not disarm Iraq of the weapons he alleged it to have and launched a second Gulf WarLater U.S.-led inspections found out that Iraq had earlier ceased active WMD production and stockpiling. The report also found that Iraq had worked covertly to maintain the intellectual and physical capacity to produce WMDs and intended to restart production once sanctions were lifted.[12]

In 2015 it was learned that Iraq's weapons of mass destruction had not been fully accounted for by UN inspections.[13] Ten years after its inception, Operation Avarice was declassified and it was learned that there were stockpiles of warheads and rockets containing degraded chemical agents similar to those used in the Iran-Iraq War. From 2005 through 2006 military intelligence discovered that the weapons—many in poor condition, some empty or containing nonlethal liquid, but others containing sarin with unexpectedly high purity—were in the possession of one Iraqi individual who remained anonymous. Operation Avarice, headed by army intelligence and the CIA, involved the discreet purchase of the weapons from the unidentified individual to keep them off the black market.[13]

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我依然反对小布什总统的那场战争,因为当时的危机没那么迫切,战争不是必要的。 -老看客- 给 老看客 发送悄悄话 老看客 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 04/09/2017 postreply 18:15:47

You believe this? -2544- 给 2544 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 04/09/2017 postreply 18:29:46

为什么不?!如果要造假的话,当时美国占领伊拉克,想咋造就咋造,还会让总统、政府在国际上丢脸?! -老看客- 给 老看客 发送悄悄话 老看客 的博客首页 (347 bytes) () 04/09/2017 postreply 18:43:03

这不是美国第一次造假。美越战也是造假挑起的。 -wwni60- 给 wwni60 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 04/09/2017 postreply 19:10:30

有机会今后在讨论越战。但伊拉克的事不是造假。许多人当初都认为是,包括我自己。 -老看客- 给 老看客 发送悄悄话 老看客 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 04/09/2017 postreply 19:35:33

十二年后,有人卖给CIA 400个美国制造的化武弹头,还没搞有谁卖的,而这还不是布什要找的WMD. -wwni60- 给 wwni60 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 04/09/2017 postreply 20:11:23

读帖不仔细啊!... -老看客- 给 老看客 发送悄悄话 老看客 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 04/09/2017 postreply 20:15:37

真敢说。指鹿为马的现代版。 -dallas01- 给 dallas01 发送悄悄话 dallas01 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 04/09/2017 postreply 18:38:50

你的证据是? -老看客- 给 老看客 发送悄悄话 老看客 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 04/09/2017 postreply 18:43:59

你不会认为这里的都是国内或者大家拿的,或者08后才来美国的吧。 -dallas01- 给 dallas01 发送悄悄话 dallas01 的博客首页 (77 bytes) () 04/09/2017 postreply 18:50:31

有老美不承认有啥稀奇,每个总统的政策随时都可能有50%的人反对。现在反川普向叙利亚发导弹的也很多。 -老看客- 给 老看客 发送悄悄话 老看客 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 04/09/2017 postreply 18:54:04

Colin Powell: U.N. Speech “Was a Great Intelligence Failure” -dallas01- 给 dallas01 发送悄悄话 dallas01 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 04/09/2017 postreply 18:59:06

鲍威尔自己都说是个错误了,你就别再洗地了。 -dallas01- 给 dallas01 发送悄悄话 dallas01 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 04/09/2017 postreply 19:04:35

在没有后来的发现之前,小布什和鲍威尔可能都认为是情报搞错了。 -老看客- 给 老看客 发送悄悄话 老看客 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 04/09/2017 postreply 19:15:08

窜帮了;当时没搜到就动武,更说明了以前的借口是欺骗。 -houtou72- 给 houtou72 发送悄悄话 houtou72 的博客首页 (215 bytes) () 04/09/2017 postreply 19:39:39

这个WMD主要是生物和化学武器,在联合国监督下销毁了很多,但有一部分被藏起来了。 -老看客- 给 老看客 发送悄悄话 老看客 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 04/09/2017 postreply 19:47:11

如何证明“但有一部分被藏起来了”, 只是猜想。不要把可能性当事实! -nyg- 给 nyg 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 04/09/2017 postreply 19:52:28

我转的帖子里列出的就是后面发现的事实。 -老看客- 给 老看客 发送悄悄话 老看客 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 04/09/2017 postreply 19:57:42

转贴内容是事而非。 -wwni60- 给 wwni60 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 04/09/2017 postreply 20:32:42

算了别与老看客 争了。 他把美国政府的结论就是事实为前提,还有什么可辩的。 -nyg- 给 nyg 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 04/09/2017 postreply 20:43:26

美军那时已经侵入该国,放些东西栽赃还不容易。所以关键是动武前有否实证。情报错误,难道鲍威尔拿出佐证的也是错误的东西? -houtou72- 给 houtou72 发送悄悄话 houtou72 的博客首页 (161 bytes) () 04/09/2017 postreply 21:55:47

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