请教Mom2016 和其他妈妈

My son really likes Berkeley, and he will apply there this year.

What are the pros/cons of Berkeley?   It seems to be a wonderful school to me.

IVYs are not strong in Science and Engineering.  MIT is great, but tuition is high.  Why do you think IVYs and MIT are so much better than Berkeley?

所有跟帖： 

• 因为IVY本科不是职业学校，与州大培养的目标不同。如果考虑本科是职业执照，别去IVY。 -mmmwww- ♂ (0 bytes) () 09/30/2015 postreply 10:57:28

• Penn的Wharton和Cornell的hotel school是什么？ -CMP- ♂ (0 bytes) () 09/30/2015 postreply 11:03:24

• 拿小藤副业说事，不说明什么。那怕是职业学校医学院，名校培养医务界中上层，非名校培养下层，这是教育提纲里开宗明义的。 -mmmwww- ♂ (0 bytes) () 09/30/2015 postreply 11:11:08

• 那什么是主业？ -CMP- ♂ (0 bytes) () 09/30/2015 postreply 11:17:06

• 文理学院，这是常识吧？哈佛学院，耶鲁学院，P大的Butler，Mathey，Whitman学院，哥大的Columbia Coll -mmmwww- ♂ (189 bytes) () 09/30/2015 postreply 11:32:09

• 州大也有文理学院， 也主要。 -CMP- ♂ (0 bytes) () 09/30/2015 postreply 11:43:58

• 是相同名字，非名医学院出来也有进入医学界中高层，但这不影响学校培养目标宗旨也不影响主流去向。 -mmmwww- ♂ (0 bytes) () 09/30/2015 postreply 11:49:19

• Follow不了你的逻辑。。。 -CMP- ♂ (154 bytes) () 09/30/2015 postreply 11:55:03

• 一个是培养中上层人士，一个是培养中下层主力。提医学院是举例说明同样是医生也有方向差别。另外少数人的例子不代表主流。 -mmmwww- ♂ (0 bytes) () 09/30/2015 postreply 12:05:25

• 这多半与学生素质有关。优秀的州大学生照样出色。 -CMP- ♂ (0 bytes) () 09/30/2015 postreply 12:48:26

• 她说过UCB人太多选不上课 -怀旧一点点- ♀ (0 bytes) () 09/30/2015 postreply 11:00:30

• 后半截没写上：如果你娃能上MIT，你真为了省学费送UCB？ -怀旧一点点- ♀ (32 bytes) () 09/30/2015 postreply 11:03:07

• Why do you think MIT is better than Cal? -Smilee- ♀ (226 bytes) () 09/30/2015 postreply 11:14:07

• Yes, you missed it -beachlver- ♂ (637 bytes) () 09/30/2015 postreply 11:16:43

• Do you have solid numbers to back the claims? -Smilee- ♀ (245 bytes) () 09/30/2015 postreply 11:23:39

• The numbers are all over the places -beachlver- ♂ (423 bytes) () 09/30/2015 postreply 11:31:29

• 学工程的话最后看的是研究生在哪儿读的 -cutedolphin- ♂ (0 bytes) () 09/30/2015 postreply 11:35:28

• We are in California, and my son wants to do EECS -Smilee- ♀ (458 bytes) () 09/30/2015 postreply 11:42:52

• If I were you -beachlver- ♂ (456 bytes) () 09/30/2015 postreply 12:26:42

• Thanks for your inputs. Will ponder more on this -Smilee- ♀ (0 bytes) () 09/30/2015 postreply 15:02:04

• ASU is very different from Cal. -Smilee- ♀ (75 bytes) () 09/30/2015 postreply 11:34:10

• 现在学生贷款已经成为美国老百姓最大的债务了，80%以上的美国大学生在毕业后的20年内没能还清贷款，包括总统奥巴马，可想而知 -trimtip- ♂ (41 bytes) () 09/30/2015 postreply 11:04:02

• 主要差别在于精度， 不在于高度 -beachlver- ♂ (389 bytes) () 09/30/2015 postreply 11:14:11

• How about graduates in EECS? -Smilee- ♀ (294 bytes) () 09/30/2015 postreply 11:19:04

• EECS is exceptionally strong at UCB -beachlver- ♂ (166 bytes) () 09/30/2015 postreply 11:42:21

• 往BSO上想，一切都解释通了。 -skyport- ♂ (32 bytes) () 09/30/2015 postreply 11:32:18

• "face" is not important as the "inside beauty" -Smilee- ♀ (0 bytes) () 09/30/2015 postreply 11:50:48

• UCB跟MIT在人们眼里还不是一个level 的。虽然到具体个人，混得好的混的差的也没法比 -cutedolphin- ♂ (125 bytes) () 09/30/2015 postreply 11:33:47

• Average Cal engineering stduents are doing well. -Smilee- ♀ (273 bytes) () 09/30/2015 postreply 11:47:26

• Most Engineering school studesnts are doing well in life. -beachlver- ♂ (130 bytes) () 09/30/2015 postreply 11:50:23

• 发这个贴是为了说服自己吗，Cal和MIT一样好？事实上没上成MIT的去了Cal. -FlyingFree- ♀ (0 bytes) () 09/30/2015 postreply 13:25:55

• Haha, well said! -PALandlord- ♂ (0 bytes) () 09/30/2015 postreply 11:56:20

• 说的好 -lily0533- ♀ (0 bytes) () 09/30/2015 postreply 17:59:13

• 还要看孩子是不是fit这样的学校 -lhy- ♂ (71 bytes) () 09/30/2015 postreply 11:45:00

• Cal is strong in business and liberal arts as well -Smilee- ♀ (0 bytes) () 09/30/2015 postreply 11:48:54

• 如果小孩喜欢，又为你省钱，当然去 -lhy- ♂ (60 bytes) () 09/30/2015 postreply 13:37:42