旧话重提,亚裔在美国申请好大学受到“歧视”?

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不知道这里讨论过没有。纽约时报2天前刊登西北大学社会学副教授 Carolyn CHEN的文章,说明现在美国的top大学录取时“歧视”亚裔。大家可以仔细阅读原文。

有几条她说的很有意思:

1.几个单凭考试成绩录取的好公立高中,亚裔约有40-70&,可是top大学的亚裔比例大约在12-18%。

2.西北大学的亚裔同学感到作为亚裔有羞辱感,学习好了,大家认为是应该的。

3.白人学生如果是Intel STS 的finalist,高中排名第一,在学校的交响乐团,就会非常杰出。而亚裔有同样的成绩,就没有那么杰出。

 

http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2012/12/19/fears-of-an-asian-quota-in-the-ivy-league/scores-arent-the-only-qualification

New York Times
Op-Ed Contributor
Asians: Too Smart for Their Own Good?
By CAROLYN CHEN
Published: December 19, 2012

Evanston, Ill.

AT the end of this month, high school seniors will submit their college applications and begin waiting to hear where they will spend the next four years of their lives. More than they might realize, the outcome will depend on race. If you are Asian, your chances of getting into the most selective colleges and universities will almost certainly be lower than if you are white.

Asian-Americans constitute 5.6 percent of the nation’s population but 12 to 18 percent of the student body at Ivy League schools. But if judged on their merits — grades, test scores, academic honors and extracurricular activities — Asian-Americans are underrepresented at these schools. Consider that Asians make up anywhere from 40 to 70 percent of the student population at top public high schools like Stuyvesant and Bronx Science in New York City, Lowell in San Francisco and Thomas Jefferson in Alexandria, Va., where admissions are largely based on exams and grades.

In a 2009 study of more than 9,000 students who applied to selective universities, the sociologists Thomas J. Espenshade and Alexandria Walton Radford found that white students were three times more likely to be admitted than Asians with the same academic record.

Sound familiar? In the 1920s, as high-achieving Jews began to compete with WASP prep schoolers, Ivy League schools started asking about family background and sought vague qualities like “character,” “vigor,” “manliness” and “leadership” to cap Jewish enrollment. These unofficial Jewish quotas weren’t lifted until the early 1960s, as the sociologist Jerome Karabel found in his 2005 history of admissions practices at Harvard, Yale and Princeton.

In the 1920s, people asked: will Harvard still be Harvard with so many Jews? Today we ask: will Harvard still be Harvard with so many Asians? Yale’s student population is 58 percent white and 18 percent Asian. Would it be such a calamity if those numbers were reversed?

As the journalist Daniel Golden revealed in his 2006 book “The Price of Admission,” far more attention has been devoted to race-conscious affirmative action at public universities (which the Supreme Court has scaled back and might soon eliminate altogether) than to the special preferences elite universities afford to the children of (overwhelmingly white) donors and alumni.

For middle-class and affluent whites, overachieving Asian-Americans pose thorny questions about privilege and power, merit and opportunity. Some white parents have reportedly shied away from selective public schools that have become “too Asian,” fearing that their children will be outmatched. Many whites who can afford it flock to private schools that promote “progressive” educational philosophies, don’t “teach to the test” and offer programs in art and music (but not “Asian instruments,” like piano and violin). At some of these top-tier private schools, too, Asian kids find it hard to get in.

At highly selective colleges, the quotas are implicit, but very real. So are the psychological consequences. At Northwestern, Asian-American students tell me that they feel ashamed of their identity — that they feel viewed as a faceless bunch of geeks and virtuosos. When they succeed, their peers chalk it up to “being Asian.” They are too smart and hard-working for their own good.

Since the 1965 overhaul of immigration law, the United States has lured millions of highly educated, ambitious immigrants from places like Taiwan, South Korea and India. We welcomed these immigrants precisely because they outperformed and overachieved. Yet now we are stigmatizing their children for inheriting their parents’ work ethic and faith in a good education. How self-defeating.

To be clear, I do not seek to perpetuate the “model minority” myth — Asian-Americans are a diverse group, including undocumented restaurant workers and resettled refugees as well as the more familiar doctors and engineers. Nor do I endorse the law professor Amy Chua’s pernicious “Tiger Mother” stereotype, which has set back Asian kids by attributing their successes to overzealous (and even pathological) parenting rather than individual effort.

Some educators, parents and students worry that if admissions are based purely on academic merit, selective universities will be dominated by whites and Asians and admit few blacks and Latinos, as a result of socioeconomic factors and an enduring test-score gap. We still need affirmative action for underrepresented groups, including blacks, Latinos, American Indians and Southeast Asian Americans and low-income students of all backgrounds.

But for white and Asian middle- and upper-income kids, the playing field should be equal. It is noteworthy that many high-achieving kids at selective public magnet schools are children of working-class immigrants, not well-educated professionals. Surnames like Kim, Singh and Wong should not trigger special scrutiny.

We want to fill our top universities with students of exceptional and wide-ranging talent, not just stellar test takers. But what worries me is the application of criteria like “individuality” and “uniqueness,” subjectively and unfairly, to the detriment of Asians, as happened to Jewish applicants in the past. I suspect that in too many college admissions offices, a white Intel Science Talent Search finalist who is a valedictorian and the concertmaster of her high school orchestra would stand out as exceptional, while an Asian-American with the same résumé (and socioeconomic background) would not.

The way we treat these children will influence the America we become. If our most renowned schools set implicit quotas for high-achieving Asian-Americans, we are sending a message to all students that hard work and good grades may be a fool’s errand.

Carolyn Chen is an associate professor of sociology and director of the Asian American Studies Program at Northwestern.
A version of this op-ed appeared in print on December 20, 2012, on page A43 of the New York edition with the headline: Asians: Too Smart for Their Own Good?.

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回复:旧话重提,亚裔在美国申请好大学受到“歧视”? -laoyangdelp- 给 laoyangdelp 发送悄悄话 laoyangdelp 的博客首页 (610 bytes) () 12/22/2012 postreply 17:41:37

藤校学生这个POOL应该从高中生里面来,还是全体人口?美国监狱还关了1%人口 -mooseamoose- 给 mooseamoose 发送悄悄话 mooseamoose 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 12/22/2012 postreply 18:50:18

美国高中生了亚裔占多少比例? -laborlaw- 给 laborlaw 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 12/23/2012 postreply 07:59:34

You either don't understand the article or don't know what you a -laosan- 给 laosan 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 12/22/2012 postreply 19:40:50

岐视是显尔易见的。如果你选择对此视尔不见,那又另当别论。建议阅读Fears of an Asian Quota in the I -双城春秋- 给 双城春秋 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 12/24/2012 postreply 02:39:52

岐视是显尔易见的。如果你选择对此视尔不见,那又另当别论。建议阅读Fears of an Asian Quota in the I -双城春秋- 给 双城春秋 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 12/24/2012 postreply 02:40:12

写得好! -ffang- 给 ffang 发送悄悄话 (25 bytes) () 12/22/2012 postreply 19:15:35

藤校本来就是蓝血贵族学校,所谓diversity就是让蓝血学生以后应对不同族裔的社会 -唵啊吽- 给 唵啊吽 发送悄悄话 唵啊吽 的博客首页 (796 bytes) () 12/23/2012 postreply 13:22:44

坚决支持美国大学这样做。哪里亚洲人一多就完了。中国只凭成绩录取,你们怎么不去中国啊? -sinart- 给 sinart 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 12/23/2012 postreply 15:20:43

如果藤校能承认招生过程确实存在岐视,那算得上敢作敢为。现实是,他们在否认。 -双城春秋- 给 双城春秋 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 12/24/2012 postreply 02:45:43

這就是關鍵, 西方文化的扭曲性格 -tzuuyi- 给 tzuuyi 发送悄悄话 (43 bytes) () 12/24/2012 postreply 17:43:54

亚裔学生玩命补习sat弄高分,就是对公平竞争的亵渎。如同职业对不能参加奥运会一样。 -sinart- 给 sinart 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 12/24/2012 postreply 18:39:28

职业队不能参加奥运会已成历史。排除职业运动员的比赛是低水平的比赛。 -双城春秋- 给 双城春秋 发送悄悄话 (48 bytes) () 12/24/2012 postreply 21:53:29

个人观察。完美型的亚裔学生往往在Stanford, HYP落败。反而有明显外貌、性格、家庭缺陷亚裔候选人有机会进入。 -双城春秋- 给 双城春秋 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 12/24/2012 postreply 18:30:13

寫文章的數學肯定不好,因為中國人同亞裔占美國總人口是百分之多少? -X723- 给 X723 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 12/25/2012 postreply 07:18:10

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