关于歧视,看看今年小藤康奈尔的录取情况。白男SAT2010录取,亚洲男2170拒绝

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亚洲男的经历闪光点比白男多得多。民主,平等是忽悠人的。
phetreed

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Join Date: Aug 2010

Location: Fort Worth, TX --> Ithaca, NY

Posts: 26




Pick one:
Decision: Accepted

Pick one:
Arts & Sciences

Objective: • SAT I (breakdown): 2010 (640R,720M,650W, Essay:8/12)
• ACT: 31 (E:29,R:29,M:33,S:31, Essay:6/12)
• SAT II (if submitted): 690 BioM, 650 MathII
• Unweighted GPA (out of 4.0): 3.99
• Grades in AP/IB/honors classes (if applicable): All A's , one B
• Rank (percentile if rank is unavailable): 8/373
• AP (place score in parenthesis): CompSci(3),Bio(4),EngLang(5)
• Senior Year Course Load: AP EngLit, Band, AP MusTheory, AP EnvSci, AP CalcBC
• Major Awards (USAMO, Intel etc.): None
Subjective:• Extracurriculars (place leadership and number of years participated in a certain activity in parenthesis): Lots of Band Stuff (4 years, 2 leadership positions), NHS
• Job/Work Experience: None
• Volunteer/Community service: Helping Deaf/Blind
• EC short answer (subject and personal opinions on it): Band, it was ok
• General Essay (subject and personal opinions on it): Jazz Band, really good
• Second Essay (subject - and personal opinions on it): Why I wanted to study Psych
• Teacher Recommendation: Both were really good
• Interview: None
Other • State (if domestic applicant): TX
• School Type: Public
• Ethnicity: White
• Gender: Male
• Hooks (URM, first generation college, research, etc.): None


narrowstairs

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Join Date: Oct 2011

Posts: 9




Decision: Rejected! (AEM, CAS alternate)


Stats:• SAT (Breakdown + Combined): 710M, 720 CR, 740 W (2170 combined; one sitting)
• SAT IIs (if any): 720 Math II, 770 USH, 770 Chemistry
• Unweighted GPA: ~3.8
• Rank (if applicable): N/A
• AP (place score in parenthesis): AP English Language and Composition (5), AP US History (5), AP Chemistry (4)
• Senior Year Course Load: AP Lit, AP Stats, AP Biology, AP Calc BC, AP Euro, AP Studio Art (the most APs I could fit into my schedule)
• Major Awards (USAMO, Intel etc.): Model UN Outstanding and Distinguished Awards (at different conferences; 10th and 11th), Stamp Design 2nd place (10th), 3rd place in speech competition (regional, 10th), New Jersey Scholars Program Semi-Finalist, AP Scholar, National Merit Commended

Subjective:• Essays: Can't comment on the quality since I hate reading what I write, but they were different (I use a colloquial style when writing).
• ECs: Model United Nations (Vice President 11th, President 12th), Debate Team (Captain 11th and 12th), Co-Founder and Captain of Science Olympiad (11th and 12th), National Honors Society (11th and 12th)
• Volunteer/Community service: Hospital volunteer (100+ hours)
• Teacher Recs: I would guess they were good. I waived my right to read, but I get along quite delightfully with the teachers that I requested to write my recs.
• Counselor Rec: Probably good since I love my counselor and visit her every day.

Other Factors:• State or Country: New Jersey
• School Type: Large public school
• Ethnicity: Asian
• Gender: Male
• Income Bracket: $200,000+
• Hook (if any):
Reflection:• Strengths: Essays, ECs, rigor of course load
• Weaknesses: GPA, test scores (in comparison to other Asians)
• Why you think you were accepted/deferred/rejected: My low GPA and SAT scores for an Asian.

General Comments: Took me a while because I didn't want to post immediately after -- it'd be weird to be excited about a rejection. I'm not sure if the alternate schools actually read my application. To be honest, I wasn't surprised or upset. After 5 minutes of receiving the decision, my life was normal. But it's for the best! Good luck to everyone who's going!

Also, from the four school districts I know, only one Asian was accepted this year ED. Very strange. Oh well.

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再看看布朗2340 VS 2130 -yasas- 给 yasas 发送悄悄话 (5717 bytes) () 12/17/2011 postreply 23:48:27

2130是位老墨后裔,当然属于需要照顾的对象喽 -勿来三- 给 勿来三 发送悄悄话 勿来三 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 12/18/2011 postreply 00:41:02

2016 HYPSM EA 统计,by子女坛weston -yasas- 给 yasas 发送悄悄话 (277 bytes) () 12/18/2011 postreply 03:46:23

你就拿一篇个人的感想作为证据? 哪为什么不看看这篇呢... -勿来三- 给 勿来三 发送悄悄话 勿来三 的博客首页 (1624 bytes) () 12/18/2011 postreply 09:24:31

白男GPA3.99,亚洲男仅3.8;SAT不是维一 -勿来三- 给 勿来三 发送悄悄话 勿来三 的博客首页 (95 bytes) () 12/18/2011 postreply 00:47:34

关键是不同学校的GPA没有可比性。同一学校不同课程的GPA也不好比。 -yasas- 给 yasas 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 12/18/2011 postreply 03:39:10

到康奈尔校园看一看,立马知道CORNELL待我亚裔不薄. -不开窍- 给 不开窍 发送悄悄话 (411 bytes) () 12/18/2011 postreply 04:03:34

看来是我不了解具体情况,有偏见。在欧洲被歧视惯了,可能对歧视过于敏感。 -yasas- 给 yasas 发送悄悄话 (32 bytes) () 12/18/2011 postreply 05:35:42

欧洲是更严重一些,,美国也有...加拿大做的比较好,但是还是有... -icat- 给 icat 发送悄悄话 icat 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 12/18/2011 postreply 07:08:11

自由不代表每一个学校都要照顾亚裔。自由的含义是你可以自由地开一间学校。 -有些话不得不说- 给 有些话不得不说 发送悄悄话 有些话不得不说 的博客首页 (61 bytes) () 12/18/2011 postreply 06:17:06

那年头华人都在加州修铁路,属于被剥削的,怎么开得起大学?华人受照顾才是应该的。 -yasas- 给 yasas 发送悄悄话 (32 bytes) () 12/18/2011 postreply 06:25:19

那现在呢?至少华人的平均收入已经高于白人了。开家学校不难吧。 -有些话不得不说- 给 有些话不得不说 发送悄悄话 有些话不得不说 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 12/18/2011 postreply 06:27:59

华人在争奖学金,争入校名额的时候,一个个争先恐后。等要捐款了,个个缩头乌龟 -有些话不得不说- 给 有些话不得不说 发送悄悄话 有些话不得不说 的博客首页 (27 bytes) () 12/18/2011 postreply 06:35:00

前一段时间好像有个YALE的华人捐了一个米。被人责备不捐母校复旦。 -yasas- 给 yasas 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 12/18/2011 postreply 07:09:59

这逻辑非常搞笑。 -大鱼2010- 给 大鱼2010 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 12/18/2011 postreply 08:20:00

小藤康奈尔什么时候说过SAT分数是录取的唯一标准? -开国际玩笑- 给 开国际玩笑 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 12/18/2011 postreply 07:49:56

当然没有,但看那两个简历,如果抛开人种,那个亚裔胜出,应该更符合大多数人推论。 -yasas- 给 yasas 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 12/18/2011 postreply 07:53:50

符合大多数华人分数第一的思维. 从发展潜力(potential)看呢? 不好说了. -不开窍- 给 不开窍 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 12/18/2011 postreply 08:17:40

回复:关于歧视,看看今年小藤康奈尔的录取情况。白男SAT2010录取,亚洲男2170拒绝 -wildwood888- 给 wildwood888 发送悄悄话 (198 bytes) () 12/18/2011 postreply 08:11:18

中国人总觉得被歧视,SAT 是参考分,不像中国的高考分. -talkatwxc- 给 talkatwxc 发送悄悄话 (109 bytes) () 12/18/2011 postreply 08:12:24

还有一点,亚裔大部份专门复习SAT. -talkatwxc- 给 talkatwxc 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 12/18/2011 postreply 08:25:03

亚裔参加SAT,AP课程补习班远远超过其他族裔 -I751- 给 I751 发送悄悄话 I751 的博客首页 (352 bytes) () 12/18/2011 postreply 09:05:50

more efforts should be awarded -curiousGeorge2- 给 curiousGeorge2 发送悄悄话 (222 bytes) () 12/18/2011 postreply 09:16:48

是这个道理,爱总讲得在理.现在哪个学校亚裔都乌央乌央的. -999朵玫瑰- 给 999朵玫瑰 发送悄悄话 999朵玫瑰 的博客首页 (161 bytes) () 12/18/2011 postreply 09:23:50

有看到, 哈佛今年EA录取了22%亚裔 -勿来三- 给 勿来三 发送悄悄话 勿来三 的博客首页 (45 bytes) () 12/18/2011 postreply 09:44:38

asian would be 30% if there were no quote -curiousGeorge2- 给 curiousGeorge2 发送悄悄话 (51 bytes) () 12/18/2011 postreply 10:01:05

回复:有看到, 哈佛今年EA录取了22%亚裔 -wildwood888- 给 wildwood888 发送悄悄话 (200 bytes) () 12/18/2011 postreply 10:07:53

而且我真的认为亚裔孩子的天赋被夸大了。 -I751- 给 I751 发送悄悄话 I751 的博客首页 (121 bytes) () 12/18/2011 postreply 10:12:20

回复:而且我真的认为亚裔孩子的天赋被夸大了。 -wildwood888- 给 wildwood888 发送悄悄话 (55 bytes) () 12/18/2011 postreply 10:40:00

totally对,亚裔除了会考高分以外 -勿来三- 给 勿来三 发送悄悄话 勿来三 的博客首页 (45 bytes) () 12/18/2011 postreply 10:59:21

科技落后的原因之一. -不开窍- 给 不开窍 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 12/18/2011 postreply 14:42:47

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