回复:我觉得她说的就是从不同袋到相同袋的转化

来源: 小寨西路 2010-04-21 11:43:44 [] [旧帖] [给我悄悄话] 本文已被阅读: 0 次 (861 bytes)
回答: 我只列了几个公式而已,没谈解法。trivial2010-04-20 18:48:08
“有空袋和无空袋”并不等同于“不同袋和相同袋”
in general, this type of questions are equivalent to calculating states of assembly N particles into K energy states. N could be distinguishable or non-distinguishable. K could be with/without degeneracy.

For Type 1 and 2, when K are states without degeneracy, discrete solution exist as spelled out in the original post. For type 3 and 4 where degeneracy are allowed, Trivial was right that no analytic solution exist for the discrete states.For continuous states, or the K and N are significantly large, analytic solution exists with Stirling approximation for Type 4 question: N indistinguishable particle in K-fold degenerate states, this leads to Bose-Eistein distribution.

我不建议初/高中孩子学习第三和第四类太多,错误的公式可能会误导以后的学习。如果有兴趣深入研究,统计物理是不错的切入点。

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I see the distinction and also think Trivial was right. -酱紫- 给 酱紫 发送悄悄话 (416 bytes) () 04/21/2010 postreply 11:59:43

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