can good come out of bad in china?

no way this little girl was having a life-threatening situation. Whatever happened, it was other human beings, who killed her, not her infection or whatever condition.

mister liu, i am sorry for your huge loss. But I would like to ask you to do a huge favor, to all common chinese families and children in china. That is you do not settle with the hospital. Fight them condemn them but do not take a penny from them. Money cannot buy back your precious child.

However, the influence of this incident, needs to go all the way up to your city your province and china's top leaders, even America's congress and senators; needs to reach all the way to major national and international organizations such as WHO, media such as CCTV CNN BBC. This incident will become the catalyst for much needed change in china's medical practice, especially pediatric medicine in china. You will be remembered by all people in the future for fighting to make such change. This will be the best way to remember and honor a lost innocent life - your baby girl. Please publish a picture of your lost child, so she will be better remembered.

What change am i talking about?

1) balance is lost in china, right now, human lives is placed way below money and profit in china's hospitals. Who is responsible? What can be done? I don't know. But the leaders in beijing will be held accountable for such crime against children - and we want the whole world to know that. If these shrewd new china leaders want to leave good names in history, they better do something now.

2) no more abusive use of i.v. drugs on kids. Only china's hospitals abuse iv drugs like that - no where else in the whole world. Why? doctors and nurses must have been taught wrong, or maybe they were taught right, but money changed everything. In any case, many many innocent lives could be saved, just by stopping such abuse. Mr liu, this is your chance!

3) jail time for screwed-up & responsible doctor/nurse and removal of hospital head from position. China needs to have laws and regulations, to reward honest life-saving doctors and hospitals, and to punish criminal doctors and unethical hospital heads. I know it is immediately satisfying to put a bullet into their brain, but for the bigger good and long term benefit of the country and the people, the best thing to do is to let the whole truth/story comes out into light, and expose every of these responsible people, and let the whole country and whole world know what they did to your baby girl, how they killed her.

Remember, get the truth, write the story, don't take money! We support you.

所有跟帖： 

• 海龟后的痛 -liu0421- ♂ (2909 bytes) () 05/03/2009 postreply 19:04:47

• 找律师告他娘的。 -848484- ♂ (0 bytes) () 05/03/2009 postreply 19:30:32

• the boy had Anaphylactic shock to antibiotic they gave iv -ChinaPeony- ♀ (173 bytes) () 05/04/2009 postreply 14:40:22

• what the hospital did wrong? -ChinaPeony- ♀ (422 bytes) () 05/04/2009 postreply 14:48:54

• 这么糟糕，太可怜了，是不是通知美国大使馆和中国警方一起来协调一下 -包子脸- ♀ (20 bytes) () 05/03/2009 postreply 19:42:46

• 中国 deserves -refined- ♀ (59 bytes) () 05/04/2009 postreply 02:46:58

• 法律要公正而不是流氓法律 -refined- ♀ (0 bytes) () 05/04/2009 postreply 07:15:54

• you Shut Up! someone's kid is dead! -flyfish- ♀ (0 bytes) () 05/04/2009 postreply 15:05:01

• 回复：很讨厌这种以美国人身份到中国闹市的人，鄙视 -bxz2000- ♂ (116 bytes) () 05/04/2009 postreply 16:33:33

• TO：悉尼骆驼祥子， 这种事情就应该让你碰上， 让你家里死上几个你就不会说这种话了。 -小小鸭- ♀ (0 bytes) () 05/04/2009 postreply 17:00:47

• 点头点头！这种人是会有一天遭到报应的。 -小玉米MaMa- ♀ (0 bytes) () 05/05/2009 postreply 20:04:35

• 如果是你家出了这样的事情，应该怎么解决？难道一笑了之？ -别愁- ♀ (0 bytes) () 05/05/2009 postreply 06:11:51

• you idiot, FXXXXX you! -carechina- ♀ (0 bytes) () 05/05/2009 postreply 16:22:49

• 悉尼骆驼祥子你白披了一张人皮！ -人在路上- ♂ (1060 bytes) () 05/06/2009 postreply 02:12:50

• 回复：悉尼骆驼祥子你白披了一张人皮！ -dingdingdangdang- ♀ (70 bytes) () 05/07/2009 postreply 03:39:39

• 太可怕了。希望媒体能监督这场必打的官司。 -爱在深深秋- ♂ (0 bytes) () 05/03/2009 postreply 19:53:38

• 笨啊!找美国使馆去,上升为外交事件,一定管用 -Fern126- ♀ (0 bytes) () 05/03/2009 postreply 19:56:32

• 流氓 against 流氓 whats wrong? -refined- ♀ (0 bytes) () 05/04/2009 postreply 02:48:47

• 流氓 against 流氓 nothing wrong in china -refined- ♀ (0 bytes) () 05/04/2009 postreply 07:12:59

• 你自己才是灵魂的真正的「流氓」、看不起你！！ -小玉米MaMa- ♀ (0 bytes) () 05/05/2009 postreply 20:06:05

• 回复：笨啊!找美国使馆去,上升为外交事件,一定管用 -dingdingdangdang- ♀ (100 bytes) () 05/07/2009 postreply 03:46:42

• 回复：海龟后的痛 -liu0421- ♂ (56 bytes) () 05/03/2009 postreply 20:25:12

• 很难想象美国领馆不管未成年公民。 -848484- ♂ (0 bytes) () 05/03/2009 postreply 20:43:18

• 你找的是领馆还是使馆？到北京找使馆去 -yidongbei- ♂ (0 bytes) () 05/03/2009 postreply 22:02:49

• 真这么说的？找他的领导（高层）。孩子是美国人啊！ -vivi123- ♀ (0 bytes) () 05/03/2009 postreply 23:48:53

• 搂主在中国国内！ -mickey222- ♀ (0 bytes) () 05/04/2009 postreply 00:01:07

• 放你个！ 你有什么资格不让他们去中国？ 他是中国公民！ -misswater- ♀ (35 bytes) () 05/06/2009 postreply 17:10:16

• 回复：几点建议 -liu0421- ♂ (84 bytes) () 05/03/2009 postreply 20:59:51

• 回复：海龟后的痛 -- The kid has a USA passport or not -4Justice- ♂ (155 bytes) () 05/03/2009 postreply 20:42:10

• 回复：回复：海龟后的痛 -- The kid has a USA passport or not -liu0421- ♂ (173 bytes) () 05/03/2009 postreply 21:33:56

• 美国大使馆也是官僚主义,你可以给州的参议员和众议员办公室写信 -playitagain- ♂ (36 bytes) () 05/03/2009 postreply 21:52:06

• 说的对。 -yidongbei- ♂ (0 bytes) () 05/03/2009 postreply 22:01:22

• 个人认为, 最好还是找你单位的领导出面帮你, 美国大使馆起不了多大作用 -guoke_12342000- ♂ (248 bytes) () 05/04/2009 postreply 15:04:36

• The kid has a USA passport or not -4Justice- ♂ (1419 bytes) () 05/05/2009 postreply 10:09:04

• If your kid has US birth certificate, US embassy must involve -庸医- ♀ (126 bytes) () 05/08/2009 postreply 20:56:54

• 回复：海龟后的痛 -liu0421- ♂ (64 bytes) () 05/03/2009 postreply 20:45:09

• 进意见区向网请求。不过文学城未必会登未经证实的在首页 -848484- ♂ (0 bytes) () 05/03/2009 postreply 21:04:32

• 回复：进意见区向网请求。不过文学城未必会登未经证实的在首页 -liu0421- ♂ (20 bytes) () 05/03/2009 postreply 21:24:05

• 你先到每个论坛都发一下，比如家坛，宝贝坛，尽量扩大影响 -househouse- ♀ (30 bytes) () 05/04/2009 postreply 12:57:55

• 找律师告呀！！中国还没讲理的地方了？？太过分了。我都没法相信。 -Turtledove- ♀ (0 bytes) () 05/03/2009 postreply 21:37:40

• 小孩早美国生的应该跟美国使领馆取得联系。他们一定会出面的 -yidongbei- ♂ (0 bytes) () 05/03/2009 postreply 21:54:01

• 跟他们（院房）没办法讲道理，只有采取硬措施 -xtd- ♀ (282 bytes) () 05/03/2009 postreply 22:41:03

• 同意，不要幻想医院会实话实说，家长要想办法举证 -mickey222- ♀ (0 bytes) () 05/03/2009 postreply 22:43:11

• 回复：海龟后的痛 -xtd- ♀ (0 bytes) () 05/03/2009 postreply 22:31:16

• 现在关键的不是去找谁讲道理，而是赶快留证据， -xtd- ♀ (245 bytes) () 05/03/2009 postreply 22:48:37

• 回复：海龟后的痛 -aChineseBostonian- ♂ (766 bytes) () 05/03/2009 postreply 22:42:12

• 没有谁说要让美国使馆干涉调查或偏袒美国公民 -playitagain- ♂ (162 bytes) () 05/03/2009 postreply 23:04:33

• 是不是可以找在国内的美国律师？应该联系美国使馆。 -vivi123- ♀ (254 bytes) () 05/03/2009 postreply 23:45:52

• 痛是显然的，跟海龟有啥关系，总要摆事实，讲道理， -europe- ♂ (503 bytes) () 05/03/2009 postreply 23:47:12

• 西医是赚钱用的，中医是自己用的，你要懂一点中医如何会有这悲剧！！！ -yy2468- ♂ (0 bytes) () 05/04/2009 postreply 00:09:22

• 几点建议 -养儿不易- ♀ (422 bytes) () 05/04/2009 postreply 00:15:47

• 你真行啊，。。。。。。 -europe- ♂ (244 bytes) () 05/04/2009 postreply 00:43:42

• 请你有点基本的医学常识， -xtd- ♀ (402 bytes) () 05/04/2009 postreply 03:06:02

• If you keep your mouth shut, everybody will feel better. -hehe96- ♀ (0 bytes) () 05/04/2009 postreply 08:39:53

• Agree -Guoluke2- ♂ (0 bytes) () 05/04/2009 postreply 11:48:40

• Very good 建议 -huangshang- ♀ (0 bytes) () 05/04/2009 postreply 09:34:41

• 你怎么这么说话, -小姐姐- ♀ (105 bytes) () 05/04/2009 postreply 05:04:07

• 因为不是他的孩子啊 -chincha- ♀ (0 bytes) () 05/04/2009 postreply 13:15:29

• 你是医生吧！我理解不同的立场会有不同的看法。不如试着想想死了的是你的孩子，被殴的是你的至亲。 -不是宝贝- ♀ (138 bytes) () 05/04/2009 postreply 07:48:21

• 骆驼祥子胡扯吧.俺家族里从医人数众多,从小在医院长大. -美食人间- ♀ (442 bytes) () 05/04/2009 postreply 16:32:55

• 你跟她说什么，看她的贴就知道她是没有子女的孤老，所以别人死了孩子一点都会心痛 -小玉米MaMa- ♀ (0 bytes) () 05/05/2009 postreply 20:09:05

• 回复：说说几点看法 -yijibang- ♂ (624 bytes) () 05/04/2009 postreply 18:36:21

• 回复：说说几点看法 -10brothers- ♂ (202 bytes) () 05/04/2009 postreply 19:49:58

• 说得很冷静。 -KKAA621- ♀ (0 bytes) () 05/04/2009 postreply 23:02:29

• 回复：说说几点看法 -StraightBall- ♂ (105 bytes) () 05/04/2009 postreply 23:53:37

• 呵呵，这不是冷静，是冷漠，以及对生命的漠视~ -小懒熊- ♀ (0 bytes) () 05/06/2009 postreply 07:13:15

• 真说的太好了 -三杯两盏淡酒- ♀ (0 bytes) () 05/06/2009 postreply 15:09:39

• 看了你的话觉得这个世界还有你这样冷酷的人。还不如动物世界算是开眼了 -三杯两盏淡酒- ♀ (0 bytes) () 05/06/2009 postreply 15:09:09

• 这孩子要是病在美国，绝对不会就这么死了！ -jennyga- ♀ (160 bytes) () 05/04/2009 postreply 06:06:44

• 孩子是美国公民。找美国大使馆。由外事处出面可能会好 -newberry- ♀ (6 bytes) () 05/04/2009 postreply 06:34:02

• 奇怪了，人家孩子都死了，这儿还有人骂不该找医院闹的！ -刚到美国- ♀ (198 bytes) () 05/04/2009 postreply 07:45:49

• 回复：海龟后的痛 -Kathyrine- ♀ (267 bytes) () 05/04/2009 postreply 12:38:14

• CO:刘正飞，我们都支持你！一定得给孩子一个说法！ -snowredbird- ♀ (0 bytes) () 05/04/2009 postreply 19:03:54

• your son had Anaphylactic shock to antibiotics they gave -ChinaPeony- ♀ (141 bytes) () 05/04/2009 postreply 14:37:50

• 太可怜, 太可怕了! It cannot be over just like that! -flyfish- ♀ (0 bytes) () 05/04/2009 postreply 14:40:37

• 回复：海龟后的痛 -天地行- ♀ (28 bytes) () 05/04/2009 postreply 16:03:17

• 中国太可怕了。记得韩国大使也被一针打死了。 -云霓- ♀ (0 bytes) () 05/04/2009 postreply 18:35:51

• 非常同情。中国太可怕了。记得韩国大使也被一针打死了。 -云霓- ♀ (0 bytes) () 05/04/2009 postreply 18:38:05

• 中国实在要重视医生的素质。 -云霓- ♀ (197 bytes) () 05/04/2009 postreply 18:48:03

• 非常同情。据理力争的同时，家人也要保重身体。 -redwest- ♀ (0 bytes) () 05/04/2009 postreply 19:39:35

• 你必须这样做！ -古董煮夫- ♂ (1311 bytes) () 05/04/2009 postreply 20:48:06

• 也是为人父的，非常理解你的心情。请节哀，处理问题方法一定看看这篇回复。 -白瑞德- ♂ (298 bytes) () 05/06/2009 postreply 08:38:01

• 还有，据我所知，国内医院也开始实行类似美国的医保制度， -白瑞德- ♂ (327 bytes) () 05/06/2009 postreply 08:45:50

• 有道理, 谢谢阿白! -临江仙- ♀ (0 bytes) () 05/06/2009 postreply 22:13:45

• 这样的医德，天理难容呀！为你的孩子感到深深的悲痛，一定要把舆论做大 -闲人林子- ♀ (0 bytes) () 05/04/2009 postreply 22:05:04

• 回复：海龟后的痛 -周期函数- ♀ (1200 bytes) () 05/04/2009 postreply 22:58:47

• 这个很中肯。 -白瑞德- ♂ (0 bytes) () 05/06/2009 postreply 09:19:47

• 看完后第一反映就想哭，，，然后，，， -KKAA621- ♀ (80 bytes) () 05/04/2009 postreply 23:04:54

• 悉尼骆驼祥子 -AlarmClock- ♀ (20 bytes) () 05/04/2009 postreply 23:08:08

• 深表同情 -织网黄细胞- ♀ (714 bytes) () 05/04/2009 postreply 23:16:03

• 回复：海龟后的痛 -bxz2000- ♂ (265 bytes) () 05/05/2009 postreply 05:18:54

• 回复：海龟后的痛 -bxz2000- ♂ (417 bytes) () 05/05/2009 postreply 05:20:19

• 悉尼骆驼样子是医院派出的写手，死了孩子还打人，还公然网上狡辩！天理难容！！ -bxz2000- ♂ (494 bytes) () 05/05/2009 postreply 05:45:29

• 悉尼骆驼样子是医院派出的写手，死了孩子还打人，还公然网上狡辩！天理难容！！ -bxz2000- ♂ (494 bytes) () 05/05/2009 postreply 05:47:57

• 回复：海龟后的痛 -别愁- ♀ (78 bytes) () 05/05/2009 postreply 06:08:12

• 孩子是美国公民，马上找美国驻中国大使馆！ -别愁- ♀ (0 bytes) () 05/05/2009 postreply 06:09:35

• cao!告他去 -竹酒笑江湖- ♂ (0 bytes) () 05/05/2009 postreply 06:21:31

• 太惨了, 深表同情,愿小孩家人节哀, 想起自己也曾面对这决择背脊都发凉 -写大小-- ♀ (646 bytes) () 05/05/2009 postreply 07:18:42

• 在人治社会，权大於法，如：能和希特勤讲法吗？老毛在水晶棺中在偷笑呢！小老百姓只能出此无奈之策，自爆隐私，揭丧子之痛，引民意、靠同 -bxz2000- ♂ (211 bytes) () 05/05/2009 postreply 07:28:39

• 在官本位的极权中国，乌沙帽就是当事医院及上属单位的领导命门所在， -bxz2000- ♂ (211 bytes) () 05/05/2009 postreply 09:34:58

• 回复：海龟后的痛 -TCDD- ♂ (84 bytes) () 05/05/2009 postreply 08:13:30

• 人家可是TMD的爱国者啊，高尚的爱国者啊！ -proudOfBeingChinese- ♂ (0 bytes) () 05/05/2009 postreply 20:45:06

• 警告：医院写手们请为自己及亲人积点德吧！海外的华人眼晴是血亮的，不是小孩子 -bxz2000- ♂ (323 bytes) () 05/05/2009 postreply 10:21:46

• 医院的写手们频繁换马甲就能骗过网民吗？只能证明你们的丧心命狂..... -bxz2000- ♂ (255 bytes) () 05/05/2009 postreply 10:23:59

• 回复：海龟后的痛 -行者1000- ♂ (0 bytes) () 05/05/2009 postreply 11:06:08

• 回复：海龟后的痛 -行者1000- ♂ (137 bytes) () 05/05/2009 postreply 11:10:21

• 他们不给你一个说法，你就应该给他们一个说法 -win963852741- ♂ (0 bytes) () 05/05/2009 postreply 12:24:51

• 回复：海龟后的痛 -药君- ♀ (236 bytes) () 05/05/2009 postreply 14:25:10

• sad -注册很麻烦- ♀ (0 bytes) () 05/05/2009 postreply 14:35:58

• 网络将新流行：鸣！真巧：点滴后孩子吃饭咽死的、不是藏猫猫、跳橡皮筋、做梦、藏死--跳死--做死的要！！编故事要有点头脑呵。 -bxz2000- ♂ (119 bytes) () 05/05/2009 postreply 15:03:27

• 抗生素过敏输液过敏造成死亡的例子太多了，而且防不胜防。 -bujidele- ♀ (128 bytes) () 05/05/2009 postreply 18:29:34

• 有可能被噎到，所以大家都不要吃饭，都饿死好了 -担心中。。。- ♀ (18 bytes) () 05/05/2009 postreply 22:14:37

• 我不知道你是否作了妈妈，但是，我的忠告是不要随便用抗菌素和 -bujidele- ♀ (144 bytes) () 05/06/2009 postreply 07:57:38

• 不是海龟后的痛，是中国人的痛 -一村- ♂ (0 bytes) () 05/05/2009 postreply 18:40:30

• 回复：严重同意。。。。 -dewatdawn- ♀ (74 bytes) () 05/06/2009 postreply 14:45:39

• CO：不是海龟后的痛，是中国人的痛 -忧郁的浪漫- ♀ (0 bytes) () 05/06/2009 postreply 19:46:52

• 不是海龟后的痛，是中国人的痛 -一村- ♂ (0 bytes) () 05/05/2009 postreply 18:42:14

• 中国没有地方讲理， 建议向杨佳学习 -担心中。。。- ♀ (42 bytes) () 05/05/2009 postreply 22:02:37

• 回复：海龟后的痛 -玉鲛龙- ♂ (22 bytes) () 05/06/2009 postreply 06:43:34

• 回复：海龟后的痛－几点建议 -pumpkinni- ♀ (893 bytes) () 05/06/2009 postreply 09:31:06

• 刘先生, 我同意一些同学的建议, 你该把事件发到国内更有影响的论坛去 -临江仙- ♀ (511 bytes) () 05/06/2009 postreply 09:56:13

• 刘先生, 我同意一些同学的建议, 你该把事件发到国内更有影响的论坛去 -临江仙- ♀ (507 bytes) () 05/06/2009 postreply 10:16:50

• 我个人就认识一个朋友 -999朵玫瑰- ♀ (402 bytes) () 05/06/2009 postreply 11:48:35

• 看了帖子，很同情搂住。严重鄙视澳洲的什么死骆驼 -三杯两盏淡酒- ♀ (48 bytes) () 05/06/2009 postreply 15:05:22

• 回复：海龟后的痛 -加拿大农夫- ♂ (1182 bytes) () 05/06/2009 postreply 17:20:50

• 心在滴血。。作为孩子的妈妈，我无法想象这样的痛，保重， 一定要讨个说法 -shinesation- ♀ (204 bytes) () 05/06/2009 postreply 17:35:38

• 爸回大陆探亲时不适住院, 但坚持回台湾再做检查.Smart. -拉雷- ♂ (0 bytes) () 05/06/2009 postreply 18:22:51

• 回复：海龟后的痛 -竹芯草- ♂ (228 bytes) () 05/06/2009 postreply 21:47:46

• 回复：海龟后的痛 -xx3- ♀ (15 bytes) () 05/08/2009 postreply 07:09:02

• 回复：海龟后的痛 -xx3- ♀ (117 bytes) () 05/08/2009 postreply 07:16:02

• 回复：海龟后的痛 -明月心- ♀ (516 bytes) () 05/08/2009 postreply 08:01:40

• I don't want to go back to China -snake0419- ♂ (100 bytes) () 05/08/2009 postreply 17:33:56

• 从华人看到的另一面之词 -aylx- ♀ (1249 bytes) () 05/08/2009 postreply 20:54:08

• 本人也是学医出身，谈谈本人的看法 -想说我就说- ♂ (697 bytes) () 05/09/2009 postreply 00:31:01