从CC上转来的,一个被Ivy League全拒的小中男。真替他伤心。

来源: 乱打乒乓胡下棋 2015-04-03 08:21:45 [] [旧帖] [给我悄悄话] 本文已被阅读: 次 (11601 bytes)
Objective:
SAT I (breakdown): NA
ACT (breakdown): 35 C Superscored and not superscored: (33 E, 35 M, 36 R, 36 S)
SAT II (place score in parentheses): 760 M2 720 Bio M
Unweighted/Weighted GPA (out of 4.0): 3.98/4.64 I go to a highly selective magnet school that chooses around 2% of students that apply out of 9 high schools. So out of around 3100 applicants, 75 or so get in.
Rank (percentile if rank is unavailable): Top 3% 10/310
AP (place score in parentheses):
IB (place score in parentheses):
Senior Year Course Load: Multivariable Calculus, Orgo Chem, Bio Chem, Biomedical Science, IB History of the Americas, IB Spanish, Orchestra
Major Awards (USAMO, Intel etc.): 3rd Place Best Midwestern High School Writing Competition twice in a row. 9th Place ACSL International Coding Competition

[ b]Subjective:
Extracurriculars (place leadership in parentheses): NHS, Research Team (at Pfizer Pharmaceuticals, Varsity Tennis for 3 years, 1st Violin in the Orchestra, Chamber Orchestra, Debate
Job/Work Experience: NA
Volunteer/Community Service: Over 200 hours at a local hospital, at summer science camps, a school for the mentally disabled, friends and I started charity that feeds elementary schools children on the weekends (they live in a bad part of town), I founded an interscholastic math competition for 5th graders, MATHCOUNTS coach for a local middle school.
Summer Activities: Gave talks at local hospitals to raise money for the charity I run, and why feeding poverty stricken children in elementary school is important.
Essays: Pretty strong all around. My English teacher said they were great.
Teacher Recommendations: Idk, but should have been good. One of the teachers asked me if he could write me a rec, and told me he would say I was outstanding.
Counselor Rec: She said there's no doubt I'm one of the top kids at my school, so definitely should have been good.
Additional Rec: From the director of Lee Honors College at WMU. I worked with her to establish the math competition.
Interview: NA

Why you think you were accepted/waitlisted/rejected: Admissions is hella random.
Where else were you accepted/waitlisted/rejected:[/list] Accepted: Johns Hopkins, Wash U St. Louis, U Mich, U Miami, K College (full tuition)
Waitlisted: Case Western Reserve, Northwestern
Rejected: UChicago, Stanford, Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Columbia, Cornell, UPenn
General Comments: I honestly have no idea why I was rejected by the entire Ivy League. My friend with better stats was also rejected by all the ivies. It's disheartening when you see kids with lower stats get accepted everywhere. I worked wayyyyy too hard for this. Whatever, I guess Johns Hopkins it is.

[ b]Other[/b]
Applied for Financial Aid? Yes
Projected Concentration: Pre-med
State (if domestic applicant): MI
Country (if international applicant): USA
School Type: Public Magnet
Ethnicity: Asian
Gender: Male
Income Bracket: $150,000 +
Hooks (URM, first generation college, etc.): None...

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AP,IB都排在4年级,还那么多,而头三年一门都没有,这课咋上的。 -八卦流星锤- 给 八卦流星锤 发送悄悄话 八卦流星锤 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 04/03/2015 postreply 08:30:16

他上的是IB学校,这些数据没反映出来的是他选择不拿IB学位,所以最后一年只有两门IB课。也许这个伤了他。 -Francine- 给 Francine 发送悄悄话 Francine 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 04/03/2015 postreply 09:06:31

SAT II's are so so. -BeLe- 给 BeLe 发送悄悄话 BeLe 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 04/03/2015 postreply 08:30:33

这孩子没有任何AP课成绩, 藤校要AP课来保证留校率, 他适合去州大 -虎落平原- 给 虎落平原 发送悄悄话 虎落平原 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 04/03/2015 postreply 08:33:06

他上的是IB学校,不需要AP。IB成绩没有是因为学年底才考。 -Francine- 给 Francine 发送悄悄话 Francine 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 04/03/2015 postreply 08:43:56

IB是十年前的概念, 今天的学生应以AP为重. -虎落平原- 给 虎落平原 发送悄悄话 虎落平原 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 04/03/2015 postreply 09:04:21

除非100%肯定,你还是别这么说了。即使你肯定,也可能是错的。 -Francine- 给 Francine 发送悄悄话 Francine 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 04/03/2015 postreply 09:08:00

这只是经验之谈, 具体情况以藤校的AO为准 -虎落平原- 给 虎落平原 发送悄悄话 虎落平原 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 04/03/2015 postreply 09:13:27

SAT subject 成績好像不太好啊? 還有也許IB對Ivy比較不吃香? -violinpiano- 给 violinpiano 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 04/03/2015 postreply 08:34:23

With his family income level, his volunteer/work -blackmatter- 给 blackmatter 发送悄悄话 (175 bytes) () 04/03/2015 postreply 08:38:21

He did a lot, but no long term substantial commitment. -blackmatter- 给 blackmatter 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 04/03/2015 postreply 08:39:59

Leadership 不强,SATII 不是很好。藤校挺看重Leadership, 儿子学校小白同学也被藤校全拒 -爱春- 给 爱春 发送悄悄话 (46 bytes) () 04/03/2015 postreply 08:41:49

My 2 cents -1mom1- 给 1mom1 发送悄悄话 (617 bytes) () 04/03/2015 postreply 08:43:47

improve "the opaqueness of the admission process"-yes, -blackmatter- 给 blackmatter 发送悄悄话 (51 bytes) () 04/03/2015 postreply 09:09:46

I respefully disagree. Look at what happened to the Jews in 1950 -1mom1- 给 1mom1 发送悄悄话 (81 bytes) () 04/03/2015 postreply 09:12:58

俺村今年Rank #1 是一个小犹女,大小藤全军覆灭,也是准备进JHU -楚心- 给 楚心 发送悄悄话 楚心 的博客首页 (211 bytes) () 04/03/2015 postreply 09:21:25

see how we are being accused. -1mom1- 给 1mom1 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 04/03/2015 postreply 09:22:31

小中小韩小印小犹都不容易。 -楚心- 给 楚心 发送悄悄话 楚心 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 04/03/2015 postreply 09:24:37

这肯定有什么原因,藤都拒,UChicago也拒,Waitlisted: Case Western Reserve, Northw -Duckegg- 给 Duckegg 发送悄悄话 Duckegg 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 04/03/2015 postreply 08:46:39

有可能八股文没写好? -微软的年龄- 给 微软的年龄 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 04/03/2015 postreply 08:49:40

SATIIs are way too low. From Midwest, those scores are important -壮士- 给 壮士 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 04/03/2015 postreply 08:49:51

是弱。 -huhu88- 给 huhu88 发送悄悄话 (120 bytes) () 04/03/2015 postreply 09:09:44

这个不算意外吧 --百科-- 给 -百科- 发送悄悄话 -百科- 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 04/03/2015 postreply 08:52:02

很一般的一个学生,能被这些不错的学校录取已经够幸运了 -wxc_20131021- 给 wxc_20131021 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 04/03/2015 postreply 08:53:04

再来看看这个。。。 -CMP- 给 CMP 发送悄悄话 (4075 bytes) () 04/03/2015 postreply 08:54:36

他都进大毛了还抱怨,有点不应该啊:) --百科-- 给 -百科- 发送悄悄话 -百科- 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 04/03/2015 postreply 08:57:50

他自己已经找到原因了,何况大毛也很好。 -淘娃羊爸- 给 淘娃羊爸 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 04/03/2015 postreply 09:01:49

能得让人不可信 -3-D- 给 3-D 发送悄悄话 3-D 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 04/03/2015 postreply 09:04:54

如果SAT是2300,我估计毛毛都悬。 -壮士- 给 壮士 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 04/03/2015 postreply 09:08:39

估计推荐信或Essay 没有给力. -sharkbite- 给 sharkbite 发送悄悄话 sharkbite 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 04/03/2015 postreply 09:22:37

起码报了15所名校。命中三所 -monochrome- 给 monochrome 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 04/03/2015 postreply 09:38:33

学业上不强,也没有突出亮点。不算太初人意外。 -Hillside123- 给 Hillside123 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 04/03/2015 postreply 08:55:31

这个很典型,没啥奇怪的。 -淘娃羊爸- 给 淘娃羊爸 发送悄悄话 (124 bytes) () 04/03/2015 postreply 08:56:29

一看感觉父母大概在pharmaceutical行业的,孩子看不出太大passion,EC确实没重点。 -huhu88- 给 huhu88 发送悄悄话 (40 bytes) () 04/03/2015 postreply 09:15:33

我赶脚这个说得很到位。 -乱打乒乓胡下棋- 给 乱打乒乓胡下棋 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 04/03/2015 postreply 10:05:08

有些伤心。 -1mom1- 给 1mom1 发送悄悄话 (239 bytes) () 04/03/2015 postreply 08:57:37

What do u think we shd say? -wxc_20131021- 给 wxc_20131021 发送悄悄话 (62 bytes) () 04/03/2015 postreply 09:02:09

no, that is not it and you know it. -1mom1- 给 1mom1 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 04/03/2015 postreply 09:05:13

可惜这些都是事实,这个成绩,这个结果,是常例。个人觉得伤心可以理解,但现实就是这么残酷啊。不仅小中,我知道的小白也根本不比这个好 --百科-- 给 -百科- 发送悄悄话 -百科- 的博客首页 (92 bytes) () 04/03/2015 postreply 09:03:50

we need game changer. Yes, I know, it is easier said than done. -1mom1- 给 1mom1 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 04/03/2015 postreply 09:07:39

对,会哭的孩子总是有奶吃的 -时间呢- 给 时间呢 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 04/03/2015 postreply 09:10:17

关键就在会字,光哭是不够的。 -1mom1- 给 1mom1 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 04/03/2015 postreply 09:15:21

对,得会哭,不能让人烦,不然只有毛栗子吃:) --百科-- 给 -百科- 发送悄悄话 -百科- 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 04/03/2015 postreply 09:28:19

怎么change呢,从小黑小墨哪里抢名额?还是走有自己特色的路?跟风的效果肯定不是最有效的,但开辟新路要有胆识,不仅仅是辛苦努力 --百科-- 给 -百科- 发送悄悄话 -百科- 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 04/03/2015 postreply 09:10:39

黑莫怕是不行,白人好欺负,可以再匀点过来lol。 -yppk- 给 yppk 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 04/03/2015 postreply 09:15:29

不一定,现在(非犹)白人的怨气一点不比亚裔少:) --百科-- 给 -百科- 发送悄悄话 -百科- 的博客首页 (48 bytes) () 04/03/2015 postreply 09:26:50

估计黑人和拉美裔的最低份额总要保住。那么白人一闹亚裔一闹其实是在互相拉扯,最后还是回到现在的比例。瞎忙。 -乱打乒乓胡下棋- 给 乱打乒乓胡下棋 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 04/03/2015 postreply 10:46:04

毛主席老人家早就说了,团结起来力量大。 -1mom1- 给 1mom1 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 04/03/2015 postreply 09:18:03

还真是。CC上是同情的多。 -乱打乒乓胡下棋- 给 乱打乒乓胡下棋 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 04/03/2015 postreply 10:48:28

没有突出的亮点. -yppk- 给 yppk 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 04/03/2015 postreply 08:59:08

SATII were too low -COMC- 给 COMC 发送悄悄话 (7 bytes) () 04/03/2015 postreply 09:09:29

reachable 就是JHU那段的. 馅饼没有掉。可能应该好好在 -楚心- 给 楚心 发送悄悄话 楚心 的博客首页 (66 bytes) () 04/03/2015 postreply 09:11:01

1。SAT II : 760 M2 720 Bio M相当低,应该800,800,800; 2。 10门以上AP;3。需要Lea -老生常谈12- 给 老生常谈12 发送悄悄话 老生常谈12 的博客首页 (108 bytes) () 04/03/2015 postreply 09:18:39

very similar profile, a little better Academic and Leadership -Dan666- 给 Dan666 发送悄悄话 (406 bytes) () 04/06/2015 postreply 16:57:47

SAT 2400 one try -Dan666- 给 Dan666 发送悄悄话 (15 bytes) () 04/06/2015 postreply 17:28:35

正常, 我老板的儿子, sat几乎满分, national merit finalist.校学生会的, 私立, 最好的大学是Em -我是大海- 给 我是大海 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 04/03/2015 postreply 09:19:45

Emory, 白人, 不要资助。白人也不容易啊。 -我是大海- 给 我是大海 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 04/03/2015 postreply 09:35:48

太分散了?成绩不是满分那种。各种义工活动很多但是不精? -monochrome- 给 monochrome 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 04/03/2015 postreply 09:23:13

a lousy copycat. -blackmatter- 给 blackmatter 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 04/03/2015 postreply 09:32:10

看得出为了爬藤堆砌了很多EC,但没有大奖说明资质不够 -cutedolphin- 给 cutedolphin 发送悄悄话 (48 bytes) () 04/03/2015 postreply 09:33:20

我儿一样的结果。不是今年。sat 2300. satii 4 门 760 到780。全A. ranking 1st(400 人的 -尚德仕- 给 尚德仕 发送悄悄话 (386 bytes) () 04/03/2015 postreply 09:34:35

Stern也非常好。 -乱打乒乓胡下棋- 给 乱打乒乓胡下棋 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 04/03/2015 postreply 09:58:59

有些问题请教您,请查悄悄话 -玉美- 给 玉美 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 04/03/2015 postreply 10:28:10

结果发现了什么? -Enjoy_生活100- 给 Enjoy_生活100 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 04/03/2015 postreply 11:29:29

一个没有。藤看不上他。哈哈。 -尚德仕- 给 尚德仕 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 04/03/2015 postreply 13:34:51

我的天!参加那么多的课外活动,成绩还那么好。简直就是超人水平了。 -云行8方- 给 云行8方 发送悄悄话 (141 bytes) () 04/03/2015 postreply 12:40:47

恭喜入JHP,Wash U, Mich等名校.被滕没录的可能原因: -sharkbite- 给 sharkbite 发送悄悄话 sharkbite 的博客首页 (295 bytes) () 04/03/2015 postreply 09:37:31

课程容易了点,缺几个州以上学术大奖。招办是拿学生在全国范围内比的。 -Desktop- 给 Desktop 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 04/03/2015 postreply 10:01:47

Not surprising. Stat is not strong enough for top ivies. -sunflower001- 给 sunflower001 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 04/03/2015 postreply 10:11:47

不知道大家有没有注意到他的高中非常好,75 enrolled out of 3000+ applicants。 -乱打乒乓胡下棋- 给 乱打乒乓胡下棋 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 04/03/2015 postreply 10:38:41

The application results are consistent and match his background -五川人- 给 五川人 发送悄悄话 五川人 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 04/03/2015 postreply 10:39:54

自己在网上搜搜看有些什么突出的,再搜其他人就明白了 -kingofhearts- 给 kingofhearts 发送悄悄话 kingofhearts 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 04/03/2015 postreply 11:44:15

是Troy的吗?没看到 National Merit Scholar,没考过PSAT? 家庭收入 150k 以上 -三河匹夫- 给 三河匹夫 发送悄悄话 (65 bytes) () 04/03/2015 postreply 19:51:52

这个stats真实吗? -mycambridge- 给 mycambridge 发送悄悄话 (125 bytes) () 04/04/2015 postreply 14:09:53

人没说有USAMO得奖啊。 -乱打乒乓胡下棋- 给 乱打乒乓胡下棋 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 04/04/2015 postreply 20:41:13

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