看了那篇华尔街的文章,对大多数中产阶级,其实没有多交税

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首先税率降低了,所以对大多数普通中产及以下的人群,少交税了。

对夫妇收入超过22.5万的上中产,虽然多交了税,但税率从39.5%下降到了33%。这么算下来,收入较高的那部分人并没有多交多少税。对于收入在22.5到46万之间的家庭,需要多交税。但其他降税条款可以抵消这样的增长,比如取消AMT,对不少人是利好。

要想合理比较,还需考虑几个问题:

1. 取消O8care给你省下多少钱?

2. 希拉里上台,你是不是需要多交更多的税?

3. 收入在1%的人肯定少交了税,但他们也是投资大户,他们的投资活跃了经济,给社会整体带来多少好处?

 

下面文章做参考:

Income-tax rates: Both Messrs. Trump's and Ryan's plans would consolidate the current rates on "ordinary" income such as wages and interest from seven brackets to just three--12%, 25% and 33%. The top rate of 33% would take effect for married couples who earn about $225,000 or more of taxable income; currently that rate kicks in for couples making $ 467,000. The top rate for singles would take effect for those making about $186,000, compared with $415,000 now, according to the Tax Policy Center in Washington.

Mr. Camp's plan would also have three rates, with a top one set at 35%. The current top rate is 39.6%.

The upshot is that while most people would have lower tax bills, higher earners would save much more. According to the Tax Policy Center, nearly half the benefits from the Trump plan would go to the top 1% of households--those earning more than about $700,000. It could also increase taxes on many single parents and two-parent families with more than two children, although the Trump campaign said it would make sure this didn't happen.

Deductions and credits: All three plans would make it harder for individuals to benefit from specific tax deductions, for several reasons. One is that each plan raises the amount of the "standard" deduction, which gives taxpayers less need to break out deductions for mortgage interest, charitable gifts, state taxes and the like on Schedule A.

In addition, the value of a deduction drops as a taxpayer's rate goes down. Thus higher earners may want to make charitable gifts this year to reap a greater benefit.

Each of the three plans also imposes other limits on deductions. For example, Mr. Trump's plan would cap the value of Schedule A deductions at $100,000 for singles and $200,000 for married couples. Mr. Ryan's plan would eliminate all deductions other than those for mortgage interest and charitable gifts. The Camp plan limits mortgage interest and would only allow charitable deductions above 2% of income.

The Trump plan is notable in offering a child-care tax benefit, even if the parents don't pay for child care.

Capital gains and qualified dividends: Mr. Trump's plan would leave the current rate structure of 0%, 15% and 20% in place.

Mr. Ryan's plan would revert to an older code provision that taxes capital gains, dividends and interest as ordinary income--after excluding 50% of it. Thus lower earners would see their rate rise from 0% to 6%, those in the middle would owe 12.5%, and the rate for top earners would fall to 16.5% from top 20%.

The Camp plan takes a similar approach but gives a 40% exclusion for capital gains and dividends, for a top rate of 21%.

Both the Trump and Ryan plans would eliminate a 3.8% surtax on net investment income. The Camp plan would retain the surtax but in some cases reduce it to 2.28%.

Alternative minimum tax: All three plans would eliminate the alternative minimum tax (http://www.wsj.com/articles/ SB10001424052702304071004579409051347967392), a levy that rescinds tax breaks and the benefit of lower brackets for people it applies to.

Estate and gift taxes: Mr. Ryan's plan would eliminate all gift and estate taxes. Mr. Trump's plan would also eliminate these levies, but it would impose income taxes on the capital gains of assets held at death--beyond an exemption of about $5 million per person or $10 million per couple.

The Camp plan has no proposal on gift and estate taxes.

Revenue effects: These sweeping changes don't come cheap. The changes to individuals' taxes in Mr. Trump's plan would reduce federal revenue by an estimated $3.5 trillion over 10 years, while Mr. Ryan's plan reduced it by an estimated $ 2.2 trillion. Mr. Camp's plan doesn't raise or lower much revenue over 10 years, but reductions after 10 years could be significant. These figures don't take into account changes in the economy that could raise or lower tax revenue.

Write to Laura Saunders at laura.saunders@wsj.com (mailto:laura.saunders@wsj.com)

-Laura Saunders; 415-439-6400; AskNewswires@dowjones.com

 

 


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