AI most humans have never thought about purpose and meaning

Comments:

1. "The development of AI, including tacit knowledge, cannot solve the ultimate problem, which is the issue of purpose and meaning."
2. "Don't want to think so much. Just watch and respect."
3. "This kind of problem, I dare not think about it. I am a beginner in Go, but now even ordinary Go programs can defeat me. Soon, AI will also dominate in other fields. In virtual reality, people get whatever they want."
4. "Wouldn't humans soon be given the prestigious title of 'waste'? What's the point of waste existence?"
5. "No rush. If IQ is below 100, you will be given the prestigious title of 'waste' first."
6. "In the eyes of an AI with an IQ of ten thousand, the individual IQ of humans doesn't make much difference. They are all more or less 'waste'. Who would use waste to do things? Of course, they would retire and wait to die."
7. "In the past, people could still hope that their children would surpass them and pass on their genes. Now, it's all the same. Everyone is 'waste' in the eyes of AI. If people are alive, what's the point? What's the purpose of living?"
8. "AI is a knowledge merchant, not real wisdom."
9. "The problem lies here, real wisdom must also be purposeful. But intelligence does not need to have a purpose."
10. "I have an amateur 3-dan level, not as professional as you. But I feel that an enlightened Go player would be invincible against AI. Every move of an enlightened player is a point of intuitive balance."
11. "The path of AI in Go and human enlightenment are completely different. Its strength lies in not making mistakes, while humans make mistakes. Conversely, if humans want to have a way out, it actually lies in these mistakes."
12. "Previously, people could hope that their children would be stronger than themselves and leave behind their genes. Now, they are all the same, all considered 'waste' by AI. If people are alive, what's the point? What's the purpose of living?"
13. "AI won't get tired, just consumes a bit of electricity. Enlightened people are also human and will make mistakes."
14. "So, the mainland's Jinsha Power Grid, which supplies power to Arundo, is still very important. Otherwise, with love alone, the powerful AI will be useless."
15. "If I start with a ten-second countdown, AI will soon go crazy and short circuit:)"
16. "Admire you. ;-)"
17. "That's right; making mistakes is because of attachment. But an enlightened person isn't like that."
18. "If we talk about Go, mistakes are usually due to miscalculations, not attachment. The human brain can only calculate a limited number of moves. One wrong move and the whole game is lost. From this perspective, enlightenment in life is useless."
19. "Yes. There is a big difference in computational power. But enlightened people don't calculate, they just follow their intuition. This will exhaust AI:)"
20. "So, Tea Xuan will definitely overcome you. I bet if you calculate our two IDs' Five Elements and whatnot."
21. "The problem lies in the fact that the axe is a single function, and the purpose for serving humans does not change. But AI can perform all of human's functions. Therefore, human's purpose seems pale."
22. "Not true."
23. "I tend to agree with this point. Even if AGI is achieved, it cannot touch on purpose and meaning. But the problem is that most humans have never thought about purpose and meaning."
24. "That's because humans are all limited by needs and scarcity and have no time to consider. When a person's needs are easily satisfied and fulfilled, they become extremely empty, and then panic sets in."

 

• AI的发展，包括暗知识，解决不了一个极终的问题，那就是目的同意义的问题。 - 咲媱 -    (1055 bytes) (359 reads) 04/15/2024  13:49:41 (1)

• 不想那么多。且看且尊重。 - yfz9465 -    (0 bytes) (1 reads) 04/15/2024  14:30:40

• 这种问题，不敢想啊。我是围棋初段，但是现在普通围棋程序都能拿下我。很快其它领域也是AI完胜，虚拟现实里面，人要什么有什么 - 咲媱 -    (0 bytes) (3 reads) 04/15/2024  14:35:34

• 人岂不是很快就会获得“废物”这个光荣称号了？废物存在又有什么意义。 - 咲媱 -    (0 bytes) (1 reads) 04/15/2024  14:37:04

• 不急，如果智商在一百以下会先获得“废物”这个光荣称号 - 波粒子3 -   (30 bytes) (4 reads) 04/15/2024  14:39:57

• 在智商一万的AI看来，人的个体智商高低，其实没区别啊，都是差不多的“废物”，谁会用废物来干事情，当然都退休了等死。 - 咲媱 -    (0 bytes) (3 reads) 04/15/2024  14:44:21

• 以前的人还可以寄希望子女强过自己，留下基因，现在都一样，全是AI眼里的“废物”，人活着，那还有什么意义？活着目的又何在？ - 咲媱 -    (0 bytes) (2 reads) 04/15/2024  14:48:33

• 按你说，大家都是废柴，大家都是五行属木，木又克了你心心念念的KMT之土，还是全人类之木来克，LOL - 飞翔的雅德维加 -    (0 bytes) (0 reads) 04/15/2024  14:51:53

• AI是知识商，还不是真正的智慧。 - yfz9465 -    (0 bytes) (1 reads) 04/15/2024  14:59:43

• 问题就在这里，真正的智慧也是必须有目的性的。而聪明不需要有目的性。 - 咲媱 -    (0 bytes) (0 reads) 04/15/2024  15:03:24

• 我有业余3段水平，没你专业。但感觉，一个会围棋的悟道者，AI是无能为力的。悟道者的每一步都是直觉平衡点。 - yfz9465 -    (0 bytes) (1 reads) 04/15/2024  14:52:52

• AI围棋的道，和人的悟道，是完全不同的类型，它厉害在不出错，而人会出错。反过来，人如果要有出路，其实就在这个出错上面。 - 咲媱 -    (0 bytes) (3 reads) 04/15/2024  15:00:59

• 未必，我用超强超快激光电磁脉冲扫它一秒，AI就发狂短路啦：） - 飞翔的雅德维加 -    (0 bytes) (1 reads) 04/15/2024  15:02:32

• 佩服。；） - yfz9465 -    (0 bytes) (0 reads) 04/15/2024  15:04:29

• 是这样；出错是因为患得失。但是，悟道人没那么。 - yfz9465 -    (0 bytes) (1 reads) 04/15/2024  15:03:16

• 如果从围棋来说，出错通常是误算，而不是患得患失，人脑能计算的棋有限，一步错就满盘输。这个角度来说，生命短悟道是没有用的。 - 咲媱 -    (0 bytes) (1 reads) 04/15/2024  15:06:16

• 是。算力有大差距。但悟道人是不算的，只按直觉下。会把AI累坏的。；） - yfz9465 -    (0 bytes) (1 reads) 04/15/2024  15:10:42

• AI才不会累，就是费点电而已。悟道人也是人，是人就会犯错。 - 咲媱 -    (0 bytes) (3 reads) 04/15/2024  15:14:27

• 所以大陆给阿囼送电的金厦电网还是很重要的，否则光用爱发电，神通广大的AI也无用武之地啦。 - 飞翔的雅德维加 -    (0 bytes) (1 reads) 04/15/2024  15:18:02

• 如果一开始就读秒，十秒为标准。AI很快会败给悟道人。越是以前没有的下法，AI越笨。还费电。 - yfz9465 -    (0 bytes) (0 reads) 04/15/2024  15:43:46

• 总之，茶轩肯定是我克你，不信你掐算下咱俩ID的五行什么的。 - 飞翔的雅德维加 -    (0 bytes) (2 reads) 04/15/2024  15:03:28

• 出发点 - PingFanCQ -   (382 bytes) (6 reads) 04/15/2024  14:59:25

• 问题就在于，斧子是单一功能，为人服务的目的不变，可是AI它能够完成人的所有功能，人的目的就苍白了。 - 咲媱 -    (0 bytes) (2 reads) 04/15/2024  15:02:20

• 不是 - PingFanCQ -   (483 bytes) (3 reads) 04/15/2024  15:15:47

• 我倾向于认同这点，即使实现了AGI, 也无法触及目的和意义，但问题是大部分人类也从没想过目的和意义 - 老键 -    (0 bytes) (1 reads) 04/15/2024  15:02:55

• 那是因为人都局限在需要和短缺里面没时间考虑，当一个人的需要都轻易的满足了实现了的时候，就会无比空虚，进而恐慌了。 - 咲媱 -    (0 bytes) (2 reads) 04/15/2024  15:08:54