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大选后的三言两语(ZT)

(2012-11-09 12:25:44) 下一个

                                                                                                  
by 老姐


大选一下子就过了。奥巴马胜了332票,媒体和选民都一下子没适应,怎么结果出的这么快?赢的这么多?
大选前,Nate Silver的统计模型预告奥巴马会赢三百多票, 会赢北卡以外的所有摇摆州(http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com),当时媒体都不相信,共和党竞选班子更不相信。他们有内部消息,有自己的选民测抽查统计。Romney的认输演讲是在Ohio州的projection出来一个半小时之后的开始的。
浏览文学城,支持Obama和Romney的华人呼声不相上下,让人很难想象支持Obama的亚裔有74%之高。多数挺罗的华人把矛头指向他们所称的“懒人”。让人困惑的是在政府花的钱里究竟有多少资金流向这一小撮“懒人”了,有多少被“勤劳”的人从国防费用中捞走了。
人类社会里,大概总有5%的人或懒,或傻,或无能,或病。。。而长期不能自理。象美国这样的一个富饶先进的国家,社会的理念已不能接受让他们自生自灭了。不愿为这些人付税的人,可以考虑移民他乡,因为大多数美国人是不能接受让人饿死的态度的。更别说还有另5%-10%的人只是暂时的缺少钱花,包括失业的,不拿父母钱的大学生。。。等等。任何一个象样的个社会都应该会给这些人出路的。在美国那些抱怨“懒人”的人,是不会跟那些“懒人”交换位置的。我在美国生活了三十多年,从来没看到愿意做领救济金穷人一员的(并不是一定没有,而是很少很少)。生活好好的去领救济是有的,这些人多半的都很“勤劳”,千方百计的捞好出。这些人也不多。
Florida这次是两党胜负最接近的州。我看了统计,40%的高收入家庭(2011年收250,000刀以上)支持Obama,59%的Romney。所以,这场选举并不是穷人富人之争,而是选民们选择了他们认为对国家,社会,和个人有利的总统。
很多共和党人开始分析这个那样的原因导致了竞选失败。希望他们会反省,找出原因和出路。这本不是我的事,不过借花献佛地送一句话——
Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts (Daniel Patrick Moynihan).


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蚂蚁王子 回复 悄悄话 老姐写得太好了,非常支持。
Bornfree 回复 悄悄话 回复cu29的评论:
I am a fiscally conservative too! I like a balanced approach to the problem though because a sudden drastic cut of spending will trigger a economic recession which will in turn, worsen the situation. That is why we need a Republican party that can be reasoned with... I do not want to see a one party White House, Congress and Senate at all...
cu29 回复 悄悄话 回复Bornfree的评论:

The USA national debt is about $16,158,000,000,000 (It goes up faster than anyone can track in real time) This is unsustainable.

We must reject the notion of running a country on increasing debt. We are putting future generations into debt for our current needs, without any remorse on Washington's part.

Eventually the people lending us money will become concerned about our long-term viability, and at that point they will not lend us any more money.

When that happens, if the government is still unwilling to live within their means, the Treasury WILL start PRINTING MONEY to cover our spending habit.

The unfettered printing of money leads to the devaluation of that currency, which will lead to a worthless dollar and enormous inflation.

When this happens, and it will unless we become fiscally conservative, the United States is DOOMED.
RugerGP100 回复 悄悄话 “支持Obama的亚裔有74%之高” -- 赶上犹太人了,看来亚裔比我想象的要有智慧。
Youshijie 回复 悄悄话 回复笑死我了2012的评论:

老姐和youshijie是两个不同的人,Bornfree说了,那几句话是给我--youshijie的。所以我回了。
笑死我了2012 回复 悄悄话 老姐是youshijie ? 搞糊涂了
Youshijie 回复 悄悄话 回复匆匆.的评论:
”(对自己其实不利,只是这点不利可以承受:))“
有爱心的人都是这样的,拒绝丛林法则。毕竟我们是人。最低的生存权利还是要保障给其他人的。很多人或者没有经历过穷,病,失去劳动力的时候,或者忘记了自己穷的时候比他们富有的人曾经怎样帮助过他们。
Youshijie 回复 悄悄话 回复Bornfree的评论:
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Really enjoyed your posting on your husband's Chinese email (the soup one). It gave me smiles. Happy family!"
你的回帖让我smile了,谢谢你。周末愉快
老姐 回复 悄悄话 回复匆匆.的评论:

很多投了奥巴马票的都是愿意多交点税的。美国是个伟大的国家,就是因为有一大批愿意为别人着想的人。我们已经拥有很多,希望别人也过的更好。
小桥流水--人家 回复 悄悄话 嘿,难道你不知道美国有50%的人不交税,47%的人领取政府补助吗?你是无知哪,还是歪曲事实哪。
匆匆. 回复 悄悄话 文学城支持Romney的好像更多
俺选Obama确实是觉得对社会对国家有利 (对自己其实不利,只是这点不利可以承受:))

退一步讲,不管Obama怎样,他是民众选的;不管民众怎样,他们掌握决定权
想要得到民众的支持,首先要正确看待他们;看低民众却奢望其支持,这可能吗

"change what you can, accept what you can't, blaming is never going to work"

Bornfree 回复 悄悄话 回复老姐的评论: Oops... The posting was meant to Youshijie.
Bornfree 回复 悄悄话 回复cu29的评论:
I think that you misunderstood what I meant. The White House's blueprint is just a starting point for negotiation. And that is why a reasonable Republican party is very important for balance of power. The White House's blueprint is not expected to pass as soon as it is proposed. The negotiating process turned to an ugly partisan fight which nearly ruined America's good credit. Also, if anyone ever lived in Communist China, you got be kidding saying that Obama is a Marxist.
cu29 回复 悄悄话 回复Bornfree的评论:

Bornfree, why was obama's budget voted down 97-0? Looks like even democrats know he is a Marxist.

A budget resolution based on President Obama’s 2013 budget failed to get any votes in the Senate .
In a 99-0 vote, all of the senators present rejected the president’s blueprint. It’s the second year in a row the Senate has voted down Obama’s budget.

Obama's 2012 budget failed 97 to 0 last May after Obama himself last April said he wanted deeper deficit cuts.
The House earlier this year unanimously rejected Obama's budget.
老姐 回复 悄悄话 回复Bornfree的评论:

I think that there is a misunderstanding. I never posted any soup although I love cooking. I don't have a blog. Have a good night!
Bornfree 回复 悄悄话 回复老姐的评论:
Really enjoyed your posting on your husband's Chinese email (the soup one). It gave me smiles. Happy family!
老姐 回复 悄悄话 回复Bornfree的评论:

Very well said! Thank you.
Bornfree 回复 悄悄话 回复cu29的评论: Having some level of debts is not necessary a bad thing as long as you have perfect credit. The fundamentals of the US economy is sound. The debt crisis here is largely self inflected. I think the reason that Republicans lost the election is that the Republicans really turned American voters off during last year's budget and debt ceiling fight between the Congress and the White House. What the voters saw then is a Republican party hijacked by the Tea Partiers, unwilling to comprise anything even it means to put America in harm's way.
cu29 回复 悄悄话 It is easier to get your business back on track if you don't get a trillion dollar loan to pay back. If you can't pay your bills already and you take out a loan to purchase something, How are you going to pay your bills and make the payments on your loan too? Our government can't even figure this out.
老姐 回复 悄悄话 回复全方位的评论:
原来如此啊。那可好了,文学城没有和大多数华人脱节。
欢迎大家一同庆祝大选胜利。

对于反对派的言论,我就不一一回答了。游妹妹也说了,保留删贴权利。
全方位 回复 悄悄话 支持Romney的是一个人多个马甲,自然看上去和支持Obama的一样多,哈哈
cu29 回复 悄悄话 "The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money to spend." - Margaret Thatcher
Youshijie 回复 悄悄话 请回帖不要带有人身攻击的词语,句子。比如点评别人的智商。人身攻击的回帖会被删除。
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