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我们要海归到什么一个国家?
送交者: xpt 2007年11月17日17:32:32 于 [教育与学术]http://www.bbsland.com
我们要海归到什么一个国家？
China has never been a land of justice and law. We know it too well and too long.I often cannot help but laughing at those who stayed abroad too long and missed Chinese food too much. They are talking going back to China. Those who are already in China would often say, this is your last (last to what?) opportunity to take some important positions in China; How fast China grows, and how easy to get rich. They created a rosy picture of a modern China where you can find money like finding, well, other Chinese on the street.
The truth is that China is getting rich, but at at the same also getting rotten! There has no trace in Chinese history to respect individual. Everyone is a piece in the gigantic machine called 国家, which became the worst under the communist rule since 1949. Sure, you can go back to China and get rich and occupy some important positions. But you are still a small pawn on the game board for the supreme CCP and the rulers. As long as you play the game as the CCP desires you to do, you will be rich and famous.
However, not everything including money and fame can help you if you are in collision with the rule and law in China - it is not designed for you, even you are rich and famous. It is designed for the everlasting rule of CCP!
If you do not believe me, take a look at this poor professor and his family. I am sure he has money and fame. But when he faced the powerful machine, nothing matters.
Be happy in China, my China-man, if you chose to be a pig.
xpt
November 17, 2007
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广州警察枪杀教授：证人父亲病危
安徽商报 2007-11-17 16:42:46
15日，尹方明事件唯一证人王燕鸣，其弟弟王俊向调查组提出了包括“王燕鸣在哪？何时能与家人见面？”等六大疑问，而截至昨日记者发稿时，王俊仍未接到任何回复。
据王俊介绍，家中70岁的父亲患有脑血栓等疾病，仅11月15日一晚就因病痛醒来十余次。“我的要求不过分，孝顺父母是人之常情。况且他(王燕鸣)只是个证人，为什么连回家见父母的权利都被剥夺？希望广州警方让他回家看看，了却父亲的心愿！”王俊说，医院下达的病重通知书上明确写着：患者病情处于恶化，随时可能危及生命。“现在的情况让我太为难，左手右手都是肉，我哥不能不救，我爸也不能不管。”王俊说，如果这两天王燕鸣的事还没有进展，他就要考虑暂时回家照顾父亲了。“我会考虑请律师，可是很难保证有律师愿意接手。”
附：皖籍博士遭警察枪击身亡其年近八旬老母尚不知情
皖籍博士尹方明广州遭警察枪击身亡一案发生已三天多时间，但远在含山县环峰镇西张刘自然村，其年近80的养母还一直被蒙在鼓里。她告诉记者：“儿子虽然不是我亲生的，但比亲生的还亲，他是我一生最大的骄傲！”
昨天15时左右，记者驱车赶到尹博士远在含山的老家。因为尹母年岁已高，没人敢将这一噩耗告诉老人。记者以尹博士朋友身份走进老人家时，正在喂鸡鸭的她，满脸欢喜地将记者迎进屋。“这是儿子给我买的冰箱，这是儿子给我带回来的药，这是儿子给我装的电话……”记者还没坐定，老太太已经说开了。
“方明是我抱养来的。”尹母告诉记者，早年因为自己只有一个女儿，盼子心切的她特地托人从刘姓人家将家境贫困的尹方明抱养过来。这些鸡就是养着，留着儿子回来吃的，“他今年清明节回来时说，今年年底回来给我做八十大寿，我等着他回来”。
昨天下午，记者来到尹博士的生父母家时，已经两天没有吃饭的尹博士的大哥、大姐看到本报的报道禁不住失声痛哭。“三弟的命太苦了，从小就给人领养，好不容易刚刚熬出头，就遭遇如此噩耗。”大姐刘本英告诉记者，因为小时候家里很穷，加上母亲又身患重病，实在无力抚养姐弟五人的父母，忍痛割爱将三弟过继给人。每年清明他都会特地赶回来。今年四月四号到八号，他一直在家呆了好几天，但我们谁也没想到这会是最后一面。(记者王素英)
附：尹方明弟弟提出广州市公安局不应列入联合调查组
尹方明弟弟昨向广东省公安厅纪委书记跪求早日查清真相，并提出广州市公安局不应列入联合调查组
公安局作为当事方，不应参与调查；强烈要求早日释放证人王燕鸣……昨日，尹方明的弟弟先后来到广东省政府信访办、广东省公安厅信访办，正式书面提出了自己的六点要求，并跪求广东省公安厅党委副书记、纪委书记林伟伦早日还哥哥一个清白。他们特别提出，广州市公安局作为当事方，不应进入联合调查组，此案应交由检察机关调查。
昨日上午，尹教授的弟弟刘本宝等人来到广东省政府信访办，正式书面提出六点请求。信访办工作人员立即将此事转交广东省公安厅信访办。昨日下午，尹教授的弟弟刘本宝等人来到广东省公安厅信访办，广东省公安厅党委副书记、纪委书记林伟伦接待了他。“王燕鸣在哪？我们强烈要求早日释放证人王燕鸣，早日查清事情的真相！”刘本宝十分激动。
尹教授家人特别提出，广州市公安局作为当事方，不应进入联合调查组，不应参与事件的调查，此事应交由检察机关调查。因为广州市公安局作为被调查对象的所在单位，理应回避。否则，“联合调查组”也应吸纳另一方当事人----死者家属或死者所在单位指派的人参加。如果广州市公安局认为对此事件有展开内部调查的必要，可以自行组织本局的警务督察人员进行，并需配合检察机关独立调查此事件中警察是否涉及渎职犯罪。对国家机关工作人员涉嫌职务犯罪进行立案侦查，是检察机关的职能，公安机关只有配合和支持检察权的行使，而不能分享检察机关的侦查权。
林伟伦告诉刘本宝，这些问题他也不能回答。目前，此事已移交检察机关，王燕鸣也已移交检察院。对于事情的进展，他也不知情。不过，他可以将刘本宝的请求转交有关部门。
临走时，刘本宝突然双膝跪地，“请你们早日公布事情真相，还我哥哥一个清白！”
附：奶奶11月11日去世尹方明出事当天本来要回含山
就在尹方明被枪击身亡的前两天，也即11月11日，尹方明的奶奶在老家安徽省含山县去世。据尹方明的堂弟介绍，在尹方明的奶奶去世后，他曾发手机短信给尹方明，告知其家中变故并希望尹方明能立即赶回。尹方明回复短信说，他暂时在广州回不去，因为有一个很重要的同学从外地到广州，而且还带了同学父亲的脑部X光片过来请自己诊断，不过表示在奶奶遗体火化前一定赶回老家，为奶奶送终。“可没想到奶奶还没安息，就传来了哥哥这样的噩耗。”尹方明的堂弟说， “如果没有这次意外，哥哥在出事当天就应该会赶回老家的。”
尹方明的堂弟告诉记者，因为担心已经80多岁的尹方明母亲承受不了这种双重打击，家里人都不敢将尹方明被枪击身亡的噩耗告诉老太太，而且村里每天安排人值班看护老太太。广州发生警察枪击医院副教授的消息传到含山后，尹方明母亲便不断拨打尹方明的手机，但总是打不通，于是就让尹方明的堂弟给他打电话， “我们只能瞒一天是一天”。
Have some courage to change, don\'t run away!!
送交者: netthing 2007年11月18日08:43:12 于 [教育与学术]http://www.bbsland.com
回 答: 我们要海归到什么一个国家? 由 xpt 于 2007年11月17日17:32:32:
For your English level, you\'ll still be an outsider in the USA or wherever you are. Because, after years of studying overseas, your capability of mastering a language is still very poor. That means, you won\'t fit in anywhere except China!! But, but, you think you are too good for China!
The first thing I learn from the western philosophy, is the way of thinking, not the way of doing things. You could get all the doctor\'s degrees or titles you want, but if you don\'t change the way of thinking, you are just a bookworm. Look at all the made in China labels all over the world, how many of them are invented/created by Chinese from nuts & bolts? The way the CCP is thinking, till this day, is still take not think! Russians already dumped Marx.... and all the failure philosophies, Chinese (majority) are still enbracing it like a treasure. How pathetic! We have to dump the communist philosophy right away to make the country better.
From the first day The CCP was established, the philosophy is to take. Take the Marx\'s stupid ideas - against the human nature, to fool Chinese as great imports. Take the rich to feed the people, namely just the party members. Back then, Sun Zhong Shan\'s ideas are being labeled as old, conservative, and stupid! But look at China, how many things our great Party ever invent or create? The CCP took the brightest minds from GuoMinDang to topple ChiangKaiShek\'s ruling, took over a young Republic in the name of People. The CCP took (I should say fooled) the best generals from ChiangKaiShek to defeat the counter-revolutionist, whoever is not the in-crowd. CCP did not contribute in changing China from royal family to a republic. Mao copied everything from Russia, from philosophies, political systems, government strutures, industries, weapons, agricultures... to the Three Gorges Dam. (some strutures inherit from GuoMinDang) Our great fighter J-10 is still powered by foreign jet engine! CCP don\'t know how to build one after almost 60 years of ruling. The ShenZhou space technology we bragged about is an old Russian technology we copied a while ago. Our astronauts are still being trained by Russians. I can go on and on for years to criticize the China today. We simply have no independent technologies at all!!
Back to the strength of modern western philosophies, if there\'s problem, there\'s a solution. Instead of running away from problems, or sitting there feeling good about yourselves, how do we solve all these problems? Where do we begin? How? to change what?
The Communist philosophy poisoned people\'s mind too deep, people don\'t even know how to think for themselves, they just want to survive in the existing systems or just take. Be a Rationalist like Descartes, I think, therefore I am, prove your existence, THINK! Be an independent thinker, a real Chinese thinker!
Has there been a real Chinese thinker?
送交者: xpt 2007年11月18日09:17:19 于 [教育与学术]http://www.bbsland.com
回 答: Have some courage to change, don\'t run away!! 由 netthing 于 2007年11月18日08:43:12:
I liked your self-assurance, at least in pointing out the errors in my writing which was done in 5 minutes. I will go back to China though, eventually, not for the reason of my English. THak you for liting up my path.
I found many misunderstanding in your writing.
1. Marxism is an economic theory, not a political guide for setting a government. It was others who hijacked this idea and turned it into a political ideology.
2. Sun Yet-san (not Sun Zhong Shang) could only go that far due to his limitations. In his later years, his own confusion about where China should go led to the rise of communism and CCP!
3. For some reason, you sound like riding on a very high horse. It sounds very familiar - have we had this from CCP?
Come donw please. A good English with perfect grammar but little content is like a walking-talking zombie.
4. The rest of your ranting about technology and J-10 sounds out of context.
Again, can you provide any solution or suggestion?
送交者: netthing 2007年11月19日00:22:53 于 [教育与学术]http://www.bbsland.com
回 答: Has there been a real Chinese thinker? 由 xpt 于 2007年11月18日09:17:19:
Same here, typing in 5 minutes to enlighten the forum, my intention is not to argue or to fight with anyone. So, leave the personal attack out of this, let\'s move on.
In no way I am supporting CCP. Ever since CCP ruled China, every Chinese start thinking the way Mao want us to think. We grow up in a so called philosophy, self-centered ideology, which led us nowhere. We dumped everything we used to believe and faithfully followed Mao. After we opened the door to the rest of the world in the 70\'s, we found the world is not what we are told. So we change everything.
First, we thought CCP will let us change China\'s political environment. Students & scholars start to talk about the democracy and freedom, any kind of freedom. They went so far and totally forgot about the majority of Chinese - farmers, don\'t understand the benefits of democracy & freedom. Students are so naive, they copied the Statue of Liberty to symbolize the democracy movement, but not the spirit. CCP never teach them how to think independently. They don\'t judge the situation back then to seek the possibilities of small steps. We think exactly like CCP want us to be, don\'t care about the past. Just like Da Ming Da Fang, the movement is crushed.
Second, we start working hard, making money any way we want. We thought that is the true capitalism. Wrong again. After few hundreds years of capitalism, the western world already xxxxed an aliance, or partnership between industries. And there are some principles they follow so they will stay in the boundry to achieve a harmony, a win-win situation. But China is just like a naughty boy, jumping into the ring start turning everything upside down with cut-thoat method to squeeze out every single penny the world has. Again, CCP taught us to aliance with secondary enemy to fight the major enemy. This gives us nothing but enemies.
There are a lot more misteps we made, and we can\'t help but keep making mistakes. Why? Because after we stayed away from the true communism, we just don\'t know how to approach a different way of thinking. We are situated in a state of vacuum, nothing to follow. We don\'t have the environment to appreciate the freedom or democracy. CCP won\'t let us. We don\'t have a basic understanding of respect, respecting other people\'s dignity, respect other people\'s opinions. We just don\'t respect the differences. We polarize everything - if you are not with me, you are against me. All we know is simply hate & kill, everything is a battle. (in various ways)
We have seen a lot of rich people in China. Why aren\'t they being respected by other industrial countrie\'s counterparts? Most Chinese new rich class don\'t feed back to the society they took the rivch from. All they know is take. They don\'t have class! With communism\'s philosophy, we just know how to take. We don\'t know how to share, we don\'t know how to give, therefore we fail to create or think. Taking is much easier!
As you point out the examples of our society problems, do you have any suggestion besides calling people pig? Solution may be not so easy to come by all by yourself, but would you start thinking for China? I don\'t think I\'m so much better than other Chinese, just luckier. But I have been thinking how to change China, in a good way - change the education.
Solutions:
送交者: xpt 2007年11月19日06:26:11 于 [教育与学术]http://www.bbsland.com
回 答: Again, can you provide any solution or suggestion? 由 netthing 于 2007年11月19日00:22:53:
(1) There must be some people, learned people, who take the responsibility to set examples for right moral conduct and professionalism.
All politicians are already corrupted, from the top to the bottom. All businessmen are soaked with blood in their hands. All scholars and professors are busy making money and becoming politicians...
(2) The ordinary people must learn and be aware that they have the God given right of living and be free.
Chinese are known to rather live like a pig happily than live free like an eagle. This must change.
(3) The government must be elected by the people, including the highest ranking officials.
This is the only way that people can see what the people they are, and how they do to the people.
(4) CCP must step down, or become one of the parties competing for the votes from the people. It must not have the God given status to rule China.
(5) There must be a strict law enforcement in China that are free of corruption and independent.
(6) The military must be independent of the CCP. It is a government branch not CCP\'s arms and legs.
送交者: xpt 2007年11月17日17:32:32 于 [教育与学术]http://www.bbsland.com
我们要海归到什么一个国家？
China has never been a land of justice and law. We know it too well and too long.I often cannot help but laughing at those who stayed abroad too long and missed Chinese food too much. They are talking going back to China. Those who are already in China would often say, this is your last (last to what?) opportunity to take some important positions in China; How fast China grows, and how easy to get rich. They created a rosy picture of a modern China where you can find money like finding, well, other Chinese on the street.
The truth is that China is getting rich, but at at the same also getting rotten! There has no trace in Chinese history to respect individual. Everyone is a piece in the gigantic machine called 国家, which became the worst under the communist rule since 1949. Sure, you can go back to China and get rich and occupy some important positions. But you are still a small pawn on the game board for the supreme CCP and the rulers. As long as you play the game as the CCP desires you to do, you will be rich and famous.
However, not everything including money and fame can help you if you are in collision with the rule and law in China - it is not designed for you, even you are rich and famous. It is designed for the everlasting rule of CCP!
If you do not believe me, take a look at this poor professor and his family. I am sure he has money and fame. But when he faced the powerful machine, nothing matters.
Be happy in China, my China-man, if you chose to be a pig.
xpt
November 17, 2007
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广州警察枪杀教授：证人父亲病危
安徽商报 2007-11-17 16:42:46
15日，尹方明事件唯一证人王燕鸣，其弟弟王俊向调查组提出了包括“王燕鸣在哪？何时能与家人见面？”等六大疑问，而截至昨日记者发稿时，王俊仍未接到任何回复。
据王俊介绍，家中70岁的父亲患有脑血栓等疾病，仅11月15日一晚就因病痛醒来十余次。“我的要求不过分，孝顺父母是人之常情。况且他(王燕鸣)只是个证人，为什么连回家见父母的权利都被剥夺？希望广州警方让他回家看看，了却父亲的心愿！”王俊说，医院下达的病重通知书上明确写着：患者病情处于恶化，随时可能危及生命。“现在的情况让我太为难，左手右手都是肉，我哥不能不救，我爸也不能不管。”王俊说，如果这两天王燕鸣的事还没有进展，他就要考虑暂时回家照顾父亲了。“我会考虑请律师，可是很难保证有律师愿意接手。”
附：皖籍博士遭警察枪击身亡其年近八旬老母尚不知情
皖籍博士尹方明广州遭警察枪击身亡一案发生已三天多时间，但远在含山县环峰镇西张刘自然村，其年近80的养母还一直被蒙在鼓里。她告诉记者：“儿子虽然不是我亲生的，但比亲生的还亲，他是我一生最大的骄傲！”
昨天15时左右，记者驱车赶到尹博士远在含山的老家。因为尹母年岁已高，没人敢将这一噩耗告诉老人。记者以尹博士朋友身份走进老人家时，正在喂鸡鸭的她，满脸欢喜地将记者迎进屋。“这是儿子给我买的冰箱，这是儿子给我带回来的药，这是儿子给我装的电话……”记者还没坐定，老太太已经说开了。
“方明是我抱养来的。”尹母告诉记者，早年因为自己只有一个女儿，盼子心切的她特地托人从刘姓人家将家境贫困的尹方明抱养过来。这些鸡就是养着，留着儿子回来吃的，“他今年清明节回来时说，今年年底回来给我做八十大寿，我等着他回来”。
昨天下午，记者来到尹博士的生父母家时，已经两天没有吃饭的尹博士的大哥、大姐看到本报的报道禁不住失声痛哭。“三弟的命太苦了，从小就给人领养，好不容易刚刚熬出头，就遭遇如此噩耗。”大姐刘本英告诉记者，因为小时候家里很穷，加上母亲又身患重病，实在无力抚养姐弟五人的父母，忍痛割爱将三弟过继给人。每年清明他都会特地赶回来。今年四月四号到八号，他一直在家呆了好几天，但我们谁也没想到这会是最后一面。(记者王素英)
附：尹方明弟弟提出广州市公安局不应列入联合调查组
尹方明弟弟昨向广东省公安厅纪委书记跪求早日查清真相，并提出广州市公安局不应列入联合调查组
公安局作为当事方，不应参与调查；强烈要求早日释放证人王燕鸣……昨日，尹方明的弟弟先后来到广东省政府信访办、广东省公安厅信访办，正式书面提出了自己的六点要求，并跪求广东省公安厅党委副书记、纪委书记林伟伦早日还哥哥一个清白。他们特别提出，广州市公安局作为当事方，不应进入联合调查组，此案应交由检察机关调查。
昨日上午，尹教授的弟弟刘本宝等人来到广东省政府信访办，正式书面提出六点请求。信访办工作人员立即将此事转交广东省公安厅信访办。昨日下午，尹教授的弟弟刘本宝等人来到广东省公安厅信访办，广东省公安厅党委副书记、纪委书记林伟伦接待了他。“王燕鸣在哪？我们强烈要求早日释放证人王燕鸣，早日查清事情的真相！”刘本宝十分激动。
尹教授家人特别提出，广州市公安局作为当事方，不应进入联合调查组，不应参与事件的调查，此事应交由检察机关调查。因为广州市公安局作为被调查对象的所在单位，理应回避。否则，“联合调查组”也应吸纳另一方当事人----死者家属或死者所在单位指派的人参加。如果广州市公安局认为对此事件有展开内部调查的必要，可以自行组织本局的警务督察人员进行，并需配合检察机关独立调查此事件中警察是否涉及渎职犯罪。对国家机关工作人员涉嫌职务犯罪进行立案侦查，是检察机关的职能，公安机关只有配合和支持检察权的行使，而不能分享检察机关的侦查权。
林伟伦告诉刘本宝，这些问题他也不能回答。目前，此事已移交检察机关，王燕鸣也已移交检察院。对于事情的进展，他也不知情。不过，他可以将刘本宝的请求转交有关部门。
临走时，刘本宝突然双膝跪地，“请你们早日公布事情真相，还我哥哥一个清白！”
附：奶奶11月11日去世尹方明出事当天本来要回含山
就在尹方明被枪击身亡的前两天，也即11月11日，尹方明的奶奶在老家安徽省含山县去世。据尹方明的堂弟介绍，在尹方明的奶奶去世后，他曾发手机短信给尹方明，告知其家中变故并希望尹方明能立即赶回。尹方明回复短信说，他暂时在广州回不去，因为有一个很重要的同学从外地到广州，而且还带了同学父亲的脑部X光片过来请自己诊断，不过表示在奶奶遗体火化前一定赶回老家，为奶奶送终。“可没想到奶奶还没安息，就传来了哥哥这样的噩耗。”尹方明的堂弟说， “如果没有这次意外，哥哥在出事当天就应该会赶回老家的。”
尹方明的堂弟告诉记者，因为担心已经80多岁的尹方明母亲承受不了这种双重打击，家里人都不敢将尹方明被枪击身亡的噩耗告诉老太太，而且村里每天安排人值班看护老太太。广州发生警察枪击医院副教授的消息传到含山后，尹方明母亲便不断拨打尹方明的手机，但总是打不通，于是就让尹方明的堂弟给他打电话， “我们只能瞒一天是一天”。
Have some courage to change, don\'t run away!!
送交者: netthing 2007年11月18日08:43:12 于 [教育与学术]http://www.bbsland.com
回 答: 我们要海归到什么一个国家? 由 xpt 于 2007年11月17日17:32:32:
For your English level, you\'ll still be an outsider in the USA or wherever you are. Because, after years of studying overseas, your capability of mastering a language is still very poor. That means, you won\'t fit in anywhere except China!! But, but, you think you are too good for China!
The first thing I learn from the western philosophy, is the way of thinking, not the way of doing things. You could get all the doctor\'s degrees or titles you want, but if you don\'t change the way of thinking, you are just a bookworm. Look at all the made in China labels all over the world, how many of them are invented/created by Chinese from nuts & bolts? The way the CCP is thinking, till this day, is still take not think! Russians already dumped Marx.... and all the failure philosophies, Chinese (majority) are still enbracing it like a treasure. How pathetic! We have to dump the communist philosophy right away to make the country better.
From the first day The CCP was established, the philosophy is to take. Take the Marx\'s stupid ideas - against the human nature, to fool Chinese as great imports. Take the rich to feed the people, namely just the party members. Back then, Sun Zhong Shan\'s ideas are being labeled as old, conservative, and stupid! But look at China, how many things our great Party ever invent or create? The CCP took the brightest minds from GuoMinDang to topple ChiangKaiShek\'s ruling, took over a young Republic in the name of People. The CCP took (I should say fooled) the best generals from ChiangKaiShek to defeat the counter-revolutionist, whoever is not the in-crowd. CCP did not contribute in changing China from royal family to a republic. Mao copied everything from Russia, from philosophies, political systems, government strutures, industries, weapons, agricultures... to the Three Gorges Dam. (some strutures inherit from GuoMinDang) Our great fighter J-10 is still powered by foreign jet engine! CCP don\'t know how to build one after almost 60 years of ruling. The ShenZhou space technology we bragged about is an old Russian technology we copied a while ago. Our astronauts are still being trained by Russians. I can go on and on for years to criticize the China today. We simply have no independent technologies at all!!
Back to the strength of modern western philosophies, if there\'s problem, there\'s a solution. Instead of running away from problems, or sitting there feeling good about yourselves, how do we solve all these problems? Where do we begin? How? to change what?
The Communist philosophy poisoned people\'s mind too deep, people don\'t even know how to think for themselves, they just want to survive in the existing systems or just take. Be a Rationalist like Descartes, I think, therefore I am, prove your existence, THINK! Be an independent thinker, a real Chinese thinker!
Has there been a real Chinese thinker?
送交者: xpt 2007年11月18日09:17:19 于 [教育与学术]http://www.bbsland.com
回 答: Have some courage to change, don\'t run away!! 由 netthing 于 2007年11月18日08:43:12:
I liked your self-assurance, at least in pointing out the errors in my writing which was done in 5 minutes. I will go back to China though, eventually, not for the reason of my English. THak you for liting up my path.
I found many misunderstanding in your writing.
1. Marxism is an economic theory, not a political guide for setting a government. It was others who hijacked this idea and turned it into a political ideology.
2. Sun Yet-san (not Sun Zhong Shang) could only go that far due to his limitations. In his later years, his own confusion about where China should go led to the rise of communism and CCP!
3. For some reason, you sound like riding on a very high horse. It sounds very familiar - have we had this from CCP?
Come donw please. A good English with perfect grammar but little content is like a walking-talking zombie.
4. The rest of your ranting about technology and J-10 sounds out of context.
Again, can you provide any solution or suggestion?
送交者: netthing 2007年11月19日00:22:53 于 [教育与学术]http://www.bbsland.com
回 答: Has there been a real Chinese thinker? 由 xpt 于 2007年11月18日09:17:19:
Same here, typing in 5 minutes to enlighten the forum, my intention is not to argue or to fight with anyone. So, leave the personal attack out of this, let\'s move on.
In no way I am supporting CCP. Ever since CCP ruled China, every Chinese start thinking the way Mao want us to think. We grow up in a so called philosophy, self-centered ideology, which led us nowhere. We dumped everything we used to believe and faithfully followed Mao. After we opened the door to the rest of the world in the 70\'s, we found the world is not what we are told. So we change everything.
First, we thought CCP will let us change China\'s political environment. Students & scholars start to talk about the democracy and freedom, any kind of freedom. They went so far and totally forgot about the majority of Chinese - farmers, don\'t understand the benefits of democracy & freedom. Students are so naive, they copied the Statue of Liberty to symbolize the democracy movement, but not the spirit. CCP never teach them how to think independently. They don\'t judge the situation back then to seek the possibilities of small steps. We think exactly like CCP want us to be, don\'t care about the past. Just like Da Ming Da Fang, the movement is crushed.
Second, we start working hard, making money any way we want. We thought that is the true capitalism. Wrong again. After few hundreds years of capitalism, the western world already xxxxed an aliance, or partnership between industries. And there are some principles they follow so they will stay in the boundry to achieve a harmony, a win-win situation. But China is just like a naughty boy, jumping into the ring start turning everything upside down with cut-thoat method to squeeze out every single penny the world has. Again, CCP taught us to aliance with secondary enemy to fight the major enemy. This gives us nothing but enemies.
There are a lot more misteps we made, and we can\'t help but keep making mistakes. Why? Because after we stayed away from the true communism, we just don\'t know how to approach a different way of thinking. We are situated in a state of vacuum, nothing to follow. We don\'t have the environment to appreciate the freedom or democracy. CCP won\'t let us. We don\'t have a basic understanding of respect, respecting other people\'s dignity, respect other people\'s opinions. We just don\'t respect the differences. We polarize everything - if you are not with me, you are against me. All we know is simply hate & kill, everything is a battle. (in various ways)
We have seen a lot of rich people in China. Why aren\'t they being respected by other industrial countrie\'s counterparts? Most Chinese new rich class don\'t feed back to the society they took the rivch from. All they know is take. They don\'t have class! With communism\'s philosophy, we just know how to take. We don\'t know how to share, we don\'t know how to give, therefore we fail to create or think. Taking is much easier!
As you point out the examples of our society problems, do you have any suggestion besides calling people pig? Solution may be not so easy to come by all by yourself, but would you start thinking for China? I don\'t think I\'m so much better than other Chinese, just luckier. But I have been thinking how to change China, in a good way - change the education.
Solutions:
送交者: xpt 2007年11月19日06:26:11 于 [教育与学术]http://www.bbsland.com
回 答: Again, can you provide any solution or suggestion? 由 netthing 于 2007年11月19日00:22:53:
(1) There must be some people, learned people, who take the responsibility to set examples for right moral conduct and professionalism.
All politicians are already corrupted, from the top to the bottom. All businessmen are soaked with blood in their hands. All scholars and professors are busy making money and becoming politicians...
(2) The ordinary people must learn and be aware that they have the God given right of living and be free.
Chinese are known to rather live like a pig happily than live free like an eagle. This must change.
(3) The government must be elected by the people, including the highest ranking officials.
This is the only way that people can see what the people they are, and how they do to the people.
(4) CCP must step down, or become one of the parties competing for the votes from the people. It must not have the God given status to rule China.
(5) There must be a strict law enforcement in China that are free of corruption and independent.
(6) The military must be independent of the CCP. It is a government branch not CCP\'s arms and legs.
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