Prof Jeffrey Sachs 的访谈节选。值得思考。

“正如我们最近几周所讨论的, 我们的政府运作已经崩是溃状态.  不仅是外交,几乎所有的政府管理环节都处于崩溃状态。 这就是为什么我们卷入伊朗战争的原因。 这场战争未经深思熟虑,无论从战略还是战术层面上都未经思考。 种种迹象表明, 这是一场由特朗普一个人决定的战争。他对第二天会发生什么毫无头绪。我们把自己困在一件代价高昂、及其危险的战争中, 而且这场战争的结局与任何所谓的战争解释或目的都相去甚远。这些解释或目的没有一个是成立的,也一个都无法实现。

 

我们的流程出了问题。 政府其实是一个严肃的机构。 它需要严肃的会议,需要大量的计划、准备、谈判和外交。 一个靠社交媒体上那些令人费解、怪异、危险、令人分散注意力的帖子来运行的政府,并非真正的政府。 所以, 现在美国面临一个严重的长期问题,非常严重。那就是我们国会的政客被特殊利益所腐蚀, 而我们的行政部门运转不灵。 我们没有计划,没有外交,也没有跨部门的协作。 我们充其量只能算是盲目飞行,有时我们甚至被困在停机坪上。相比之下,中国政府及其治理体系极为成熟完善。 这也许会让人倍感惊讶: 如果说一人统治,那其实是现在的美国。 如果说的是有一个复杂的过程, 那就是中国。 中国刚刚宣布了第十五个计划, 这是第十五个经济计划。 我认识许多参与专家审查、委员会、审议和谈判的人,包括一些中国的顶尖学者、顶尖专家。 这是一个极其细致周密的审议过程。美国根本没有这样的流程。

 

中国埋头苦干,40多年来远离战争,建立了世界一流的经济体,并打造了至今为止全球最大的制造业。 有些人大喊 "哦, 他们窃取了这一切“,” 他们这样做不公平"。 不是。 中国所做的是年复一年的大量投资,系统性的投资, 提前计划, 为长期技术进步取得显著进展。 这一切,都得到了回报。它带来了最大规模、最高效的制造业,在电动汽车领域处于领先地位,在众多关键技术领域名列前茅,因为他们一直为之努力,并远离战争。

 

如果美国也远离战争, 现在浪费在炸毁东西上的数万亿美元 (这些钱没有用于美国人民和美国经济),就可以投资到长期的全球竞争力、美国人民和美国劳动力的和平与福祉上。 所以我们真正应该做的是严肃的长期计划,不是为战争,而是为民生目的进行投资。 正是基于这个根本原因, 这次峰会基本上是按中国的意愿进行的。 因为按照购买力平价调整后的正确衡量标准, 中国现在的规模已经比美国大百分之三十左右了,而且在无数工业领域处于领先地位。他们通过投资和长期和平的方式做到了这一点。”

 

As we’ve been discussing in recent weeks, our governmental processes are in a state of collapse, Not only our diplomacy, but almost everything about the government management is in a state of collapse.  That’s why we’re in a war in Iran. It was not thought through either strategically or tactically.  It is from every single indication a war decided by one person by Trump without any idea of what was gonna happen the second day and we trapped ourselves in something that is very costly and very dangerous and where it’s not going to end on terms remotely close to any of the varied  explanations or purposes so called of this war, none of which were valid and none of which are going to be achieved.  So we have a breakdown of process.  Government is actually a serious institution.  It requires serious meetings.  It requires lots of planning, preparation, negotiation, and diplomacy.  A government that runs on truth social posts, many of which are head-scratchingly bizarre, dangerous, weird. Distracting is not government.  So, we have a serious long term problem in the United States right now.  Very serious, which is that our politicians in the Congress are corrupted by special interests, and our executive branch doesn’t work.  We don’t plan. We don’t have diplomacy.  We don’t have interagency processes right now.  We’re at best flying blind if we’re flying.  Sometimes we’re stuck on the tarmac.  If I compare that with China, Chinese government and governance is extremely sophisticated.  This may surprise people: if you talk about one person rule, that’s actually the United States right now.  If you talk about a complex process, that is China.  China just announced its fifteenth plan, it's a fifteenth economic plan.  I know many of the people that were involved in expert reviews and committees and deliberations and negotiations.  Some of China’s top scholars and top experts.  It was an extraordinarily detailed and deliberative process.  We have nothing like this in the US.  China basically has put its head down and for more than 40 years stayed out of war and built a world class economy and built by far the largest manufacturing sector in the world. And for all the people shouting “Oh they stole this, they did this, unfair”. No.  What China did was invest heavily.  Year after year, invest systematically plan ahead, make significant programs for long term technological advancement.  And this is paying off.  It’s paying off with the largest manufacturing sector, the most costs effective manufacturing sector, the leader in electric vehicles, the leader across many many key technologies, because they’ve been working hard at it and staying clear of war.  If the United States would stay clear of war, the trillions of dollars that we’ve wasting now in blowing up things and that are not helping the American people or the American economy, would be invested in long term global competitiveness, peace and wellbeing of the American people and American workforce. So, we should be doing serious long term none-war, planning and investment for civilian purposes.  It’s for that fundamental reason why this summit basically went China’s way. Because China’s now by the correct measurement that is at what’s called purchasing power adjusted prices, an economy that’s about 30% larger than America’s now and at the cutting edge of countless industrial activities.  They’ve done it through investment and a long term peaceful approach.

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他就算了吧。他在中国很红火,在美国一直在决策圈外。 -晓筠- 给 晓筠 发送悄悄话 晓筠 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 05/16/2026 postreply 13:24:06

不管他在哪里火在哪里不受待见,你先看看他说的有没有道理呀。怎么这么先入为主,听不得不同意见?呵呵。 -越活越有劲- 给 越活越有劲 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/16/2026 postreply 13:25:39

这也许正是目前我们美国的问题:只能MAGA赞同符合歌颂,只能拍马屁,不能正视自己的问题。所以他才在这里不受待见。 -越活越有劲- 给 越活越有劲 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/16/2026 postreply 13:27:47

亲小人,远贤臣,此大美所以倾颓也。 -supercs88- 给 supercs88 发送悄悄话 supercs88 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 05/16/2026 postreply 13:41:09

米尔斯海默反华,反川普,但是在中国很受欢迎。 -supercs88- 给 supercs88 发送悄悄话 supercs88 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 05/16/2026 postreply 13:43:08

美国现在的问题所在,川普政府的问题所在,中国值得我们学习的地方在哪里?说的很好,值得我们冷静不带情绪地回味思考。 -越活越有劲- 给 越活越有劲 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/16/2026 postreply 13:24:06

他说了很多中国的好话,也说了很多美国的坏话,因此他在中国很热门,在美国则属于边缘。 -晓筠- 给 晓筠 发送悄悄话 晓筠 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 05/16/2026 postreply 13:27:50

别思考成老头,在美国世界秩序的保护伞下,中国得以蚕食国际化来壮大。美国在外面打,中国在里面吃。等中国成了老大,就倒过来了 -MoonlightBee- 给 MoonlightBee 发送悄悄话 MoonlightBee 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 05/16/2026 postreply 13:28:11

川普二进宫后,本来的战略是收缩到美洲。这个是对的,包括委内瑞拉,都不错。但不知怎么这次违背了自己的战略初衷,一下子打到中 -越活越有劲- 给 越活越有劲 发送悄悄话 (180 bytes) () 05/16/2026 postreply 13:35:12

对奥巴马妒火中烧,撕毁了JCPOA就要亲手再签个废纸,奥巴马有什么,他也要。否则想不通,MAGA自己可能都想不通。 -MoonlightBee- 给 MoonlightBee 发送悄悄话 MoonlightBee 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 05/16/2026 postreply 13:39:09

大外宣御用文人 -又当爹来又当妈- 给 又当爹来又当妈 发送悄悄话 又当爹来又当妈 的博客首页 (87 bytes) () 05/16/2026 postreply 13:27:14

兼听则明、偏听则暗。有则改之,无则加冕。不必先扣帽子。 -越活越有劲- 给 越活越有劲 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/16/2026 postreply 13:30:00

大嘴的无能是明眼人都能看见的,中共国绝不是他说的那么强大,他们现在好似昙花一现。。。 -Penuium- 给 Penuium 发送悄悄话 Penuium 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 05/16/2026 postreply 13:32:08

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