我读的书里是这样写的,成中文是:清朝的监狱环境非人恶略,活人少正常出来。圆明园中监狱是这样。

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英法谈判代表、随员、记者、翻译等约 39 人被清军扣押,在拘押期间遭受严重虐待、殴打、折磨,
20 人死亡,多人被折断肢体、活活打死,幸存者精神出现严重创伤。英法政府收到幸存者的详细报告后,勃然大怒,认为这是对外交原则和国际法的极端侮辱,才有1860年火烧圆明园(我认为错,但有原因)。这是落后还是找打?

40年后又有“扶清灭洋”义和团杀外国传教士,实际杀普通中国人最多上万人。才有了八国联军的怒气(我认为不对,但有原因,普通民众被义和团杀比国外人多很多)。

During the Boxer Uprising (1899–1901), the Boxers targeted a wide range of people, not only foreign missionaries. 

Let’s be honest: the Boxer Uprising was not some “patriotic resistance.”
It was a violent, fanatical movement that slaughtered far more Chinese than foreigners.

The Boxers didn’t just kill missionaries.
They massacred tens of thousands of Chinese Christians, burned villages, and murdered ordinary civilians simply for wearing Western clothes, using foreign goods, or attending modern schools.
They even killed Chinese officials who tried to maintain order.

And their brutality didn’t stop there. They attacked foreign civilians and diplomats, triggering the 55-day siege of the legations and dragging China into disaster.

In short:

The Boxers killed whoever they wanted,foreigners, Chinese Christians, ordinary Chinese, even Qing officials, anyone they labeled a “traitor.”
It was chaos, not patriotism.

这是落后还是找打?