20年数据: 美国政府代表广大人民吗? No :)

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90%美国人的意见没有任何影响力 (zero impact) -alonso- 给 alonso 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/30/2024 postreply 20:44:40

因为美国政治是金钱选举 -alonso- 给 alonso 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/30/2024 postreply 20:44:57

选举=合法腐败, 且恶性循环 -alonso- 给 alonso 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/30/2024 postreply 20:45:14

鸡毛蒜皮 -alonso- 给 alonso 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/30/2024 postreply 20:57:47

不屑一顾是因为没见过选票 -resplendent- 给 resplendent 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/30/2024 postreply 21:00:11

说这种话的人, 不太可能有STEM背景 -alonso- 给 alonso 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/30/2024 postreply 21:07:00

You are not very intelligent :) -alonso- 给 alonso 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/30/2024 postreply 21:36:32

美国底层 50% 人口的生活水平在 30 年内停滞不前 - 所以像特朗普这样的垃圾会有选票 -alonso- 给 alonso 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/30/2024 postreply 20:56:50

绝大多少中国来的留学生30年内财富翻了十倍百倍 -victor1988- 给 victor1988 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/30/2024 postreply 21:03:00

Apparently you are not versed in statistics -alonso- 给 alonso 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/30/2024 postreply 21:09:46

谁知道特朗普给富人减税,美国底层 50%又被screwed -alonso- 给 alonso 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/30/2024 postreply 20:59:34

这是政治体制问题, 不进行根本改革,没有希望 -alonso- 给 alonso 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/30/2024 postreply 21:04:51

根本的改革就是让共产党下台,。否则习近平下台, 又上了个李近平, 还可能更坏。 -old-beijing- 给 old-beijing 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/30/2024 postreply 21:10:09

Income for China’s bottom 50% went up +500% (US down -1%) -alonso- 给 alonso 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/30/2024 postreply 21:20:44

10->500 vs. 5000->4950? -Dotline- 给 Dotline 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/30/2024 postreply 21:32:18

"It is not where you are; it is where you are going". -alonso- 给 alonso 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/30/2024 postreply 21:33:46

So true for XI -Dotline- 给 Dotline 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/30/2024 postreply 21:37:08

You try distraction again - seems you love China so much:) -alonso- 给 alonso 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/30/2024 postreply 22:34:48

Oh men, who mentioned China first? -Dotline- 给 Dotline 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/30/2024 postreply 22:38:26

Who :) "根本的改革就是让共产党下台,。否则习近平下台..." -alonso- 给 alonso 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/30/2024 postreply 22:41:19

无产阶级上台只能依靠革命,所以美国当权者对冲击国会事件才如临大敌 -鹭岛达叔- 给 鹭岛达叔 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/30/2024 postreply 21:50:10

资本主义社会总统也只是打工的,资本家才是统治阶级 -鹭岛达叔- 给 鹭岛达叔 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/30/2024 postreply 22:10:44

美国执政党又没说他们是”三个代表“ -iloveCCP- 给 iloveCCP 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/30/2024 postreply 21:24:18

"有钱人代表“! 说不说, 有啥区别 :) -alonso- 给 alonso 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/30/2024 postreply 21:35:43

One thing for sure: you are not that kind of 有钱人:) -alonso- 给 alonso 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/30/2024 postreply 21:50:13

太失望,还以为我也在其中lol -Dotline- 给 Dotline 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/30/2024 postreply 21:55:24

No chance - better be realistic. -alonso- 给 alonso 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/30/2024 postreply 22:08:37

At least not a daydream -Dotline- 给 Dotline 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/30/2024 postreply 22:23:09

Night dream is still a "dream" -alonso- 给 alonso 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/30/2024 postreply 22:26:23

So your night dream is not a dream? -Dotline- 给 Dotline 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/30/2024 postreply 22:46:32

How did you arrive at this? Ur math foundation is shaky! -alonso- 给 alonso 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/31/2024 postreply 10:10:04

美国媒体舆论权过于强大,没有任何外力能够发动什么革命(不会有美国之春) -alonso- 给 alonso 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/30/2024 postreply 21:32:58

I know US society better than you: 美国革命not fundamental, 最多微调 -alonso- 给 alonso 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/30/2024 postreply 21:48:01

You are too modest -- was 中国 mentioned, unprompted? -alonso- 给 alonso 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/30/2024 postreply 21:59:36

Who said 500%? -Dotline- 给 Dotline 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/30/2024 postreply 22:09:39

Who brought up China? The discussion is/was US governance! -alonso- 给 alonso 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/30/2024 postreply 22:33:48

美国人民和政府本来就是对立的 -Dotline- 给 Dotline 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/30/2024 postreply 21:35:23

Tautology is what you say -alonso- 给 alonso 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/30/2024 postreply 21:57:55

由于长期媒体宣传洗脑,美国民众普遍缺乏批判性思维,任由媒体政客愚弄 -alonso- 给 alonso 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/30/2024 postreply 22:13:17

举个例子吧!哪国民众比美国人更critical thinking? -Dotline- 给 Dotline 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/30/2024 postreply 22:21:43

I have talked to French, Norweigian, Russian, Swedish. -alonso- 给 alonso 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/30/2024 postreply 22:25:16

So you think they have better future than us? -Dotline- 给 Dotline 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/30/2024 postreply 22:28:18

Their future has nothing to do w. American lack of whatever -alonso- 给 alonso 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/30/2024 postreply 22:40:13

Seems you expect more for us? -Dotline- 给 Dotline 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/30/2024 postreply 22:52:48

I hope US remains strong in all aspects: economic, moral,... -alonso- 给 alonso 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/30/2024 postreply 23:19:47

Same here :) -Dotline- 给 Dotline 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/30/2024 postreply 23:21:49

But sadly, am afraid not (precisely due to the points above) -alonso- 给 alonso 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/30/2024 postreply 23:31:09

Quite the opposite: dissatisfaction is the driving force -Dotline- 给 Dotline 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/30/2024 postreply 23:40:25

And you and many Americans are thinking critically… -Dotline- 给 Dotline 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/30/2024 postreply 23:44:13

Consensus: American math education dumb; politics a joke. -alonso- 给 alonso 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/30/2024 postreply 22:29:26

So you think they have better in math/politics than us? -Dotline- 给 Dotline 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/30/2024 postreply 22:40:53

For sure their math education is better -alonso- 给 alonso 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/30/2024 postreply 22:43:26

Did you really take any college math here? Damn hard! -Dotline- 给 Dotline 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/30/2024 postreply 22:51:00

I took graduate math here; college math is not hard TBH -alonso- 给 alonso 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/30/2024 postreply 23:11:45

You so smart! I taught a graduate math here -no kidding -Dotline- 给 Dotline 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/30/2024 postreply 23:16:41

Imagine the Chinglish ... :) -alonso- 给 alonso 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/30/2024 postreply 23:21:34

Students suffer but no choice lol -Dotline- 给 Dotline 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/30/2024 postreply 23:24:57

Mind giving out the name of your university :) -alonso- 给 alonso 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/30/2024 postreply 23:32:18

You definitely heard of it -Dotline- 给 Dotline 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/30/2024 postreply 23:41:48

"disclosing " instead of "giving out" -绝对匿名- 给 绝对匿名 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/31/2024 postreply 02:06:03

Sounds like a lawyer :) -alonso- 给 alonso 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/31/2024 postreply 10:08:03

For sure their politics is less circus -alonso- 给 alonso 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/30/2024 postreply 22:44:14

So you like Russian politics? Mafia-style? Straightforward ! -Dotline- 给 Dotline 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/30/2024 postreply 23:06:04

Russian mafia does not justify US politics circus show -alonso- 给 alonso 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/30/2024 postreply 23:13:37

Never said us is good enough, but better than others -Dotline- 给 Dotline 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/30/2024 postreply 23:17:59

American used to believe this baloney, some are waking up -alonso- 给 alonso 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/30/2024 postreply 23:38:00

That is good thing - think differently -Dotline- 给 Dotline 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/30/2024 postreply 23:45:47

Think different? Think again -alonso- 给 alonso 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/31/2024 postreply 10:36:03

politics circus 词不达意, 用polititian circus, 或political circus -绝对匿名- 给 绝对匿名 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/31/2024 postreply 02:14:13

Meant to say "less of a circus" but exceeded word limit... -alonso- 给 alonso 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/31/2024 postreply 10:44:50

"education dumb, politics jokular" is better -绝对匿名- 给 绝对匿名 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/31/2024 postreply 02:02:12

Nit-pick: "education dumb, politics jocular" -alonso- 给 alonso 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/31/2024 postreply 10:07:28

这不过是听烂了的为中共独裁找借口的陈词滥调。洗洗睡吧。没用:) -kl3527- 给 kl3527 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/30/2024 postreply 22:15:59

Your utterance is simply weird -- what are you, 法 lun 功? -alonso- 给 alonso 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/30/2024 postreply 22:22:49

老一套又来了。这个帽子吓死人啊:) -kl3527- 给 kl3527 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/30/2024 postreply 22:37:13

Regardless of whether you are/are-not, 洗洗睡吧 -alonso- 给 alonso 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/30/2024 postreply 22:45:33

因此, 美国无可避免将继续衰落 -alonso- 给 alonso 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/30/2024 postreply 22:17:39

You are such an intelligent person! So logical! -Dotline- 给 Dotline 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/30/2024 postreply 22:25:45

By this discussion, slightly above you :) -alonso- 给 alonso 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/30/2024 postreply 22:27:43

Can not agree anymore - I am just the bottomline here -Dotline- 给 Dotline 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/30/2024 postreply 22:30:29

Better change "anymore" to "more". Timely proof "above you" -alonso- 给 alonso 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/30/2024 postreply 22:38:04

Just said bottomline! -Dotline- 给 Dotline 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/30/2024 postreply 22:47:52

Kind of got what you meant, but your Chinglish is ... :) -alonso- 给 alonso 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/30/2024 postreply 22:58:12

I thought you do not know chinese!!! -Dotline- 给 Dotline 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/30/2024 postreply 23:20:26

Now I doubt you were into math, let alone teaching it ... -alonso- 给 alonso 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/30/2024 postreply 23:35:40

Understand & don’t care -Dotline- 给 Dotline 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/30/2024 postreply 23:49:44

Your reasoning is weak while your university is unknown :( -alonso- 给 alonso 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/31/2024 postreply 10:49:42

就凭美国从来不缺这些批评和自省,美国就一定会比中共长寿:) -kl3527- 给 kl3527 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/30/2024 postreply 22:48:19

You are very wrong! 美国缺的正是自省 - sorry you can't see it :) -alonso- 给 alonso 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/30/2024 postreply 23:02:29

I have better command of English than all of you losers :) -alonso- 给 alonso 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/30/2024 postreply 23:16:19

Your utterance is a clear indication of a typical loser! :) -alonso- 给 alonso 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/30/2024 postreply 23:34:30

US citizen has higher expectation than merely "美国比中共长寿" -alonso- 给 alonso 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/30/2024 postreply 23:09:12

民主制度必然战胜腐朽落后的独裁制度,看看世界历史发展的大趋势:民主国家从无到有,越来越多,独裁国家越来越少,越来越孤立 -竞选- 给 竞选 发送悄悄话 竞选 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 05/31/2024 postreply 02:26:15

大家都用脚作出了选择,还有什么可说的。 -sgbigsell- 给 sgbigsell 发送悄悄话 sgbigsell 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 05/31/2024 postreply 00:25:29

You talk about past. Your visual field is a level down. -alonso- 给 alonso 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/31/2024 postreply 11:47:03

此文作者所说不可信,犯有企图“颠覆国家政权罪”,“造谣诽谤罪”,“寻衅滋事罪” -竞选- 给 竞选 发送悄悄话 竞选 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 05/31/2024 postreply 02:21:24

民选政府当然代表人民,如若不然,下次选举必定下台,因为不代表人民的政府得不到人民的选票,这就是人民当家作主的含义 -竞选- 给 竞选 发送悄悄话 竞选 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 05/31/2024 postreply 03:11:01

下台没问题,下次选举必又上台,因为other party也不代表人民,人民have no other choice! -alonso- 给 alonso 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/31/2024 postreply 11:23:27

人民表面有2选1权, 现实是被plutocracy左右轮流slap in face -alonso- 给 alonso 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/31/2024 postreply 11:40:40

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