美国怎么计算covid死亡?看官方回答

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这是CDC官方指引:

If COVID-19 is determined to be a cause of death, it should be reported on the death certificate. 

如果covid是死因之一,则应在死亡证上注明(新冠死亡)。

 

我下面的原帖是白宫新冠初期的说法,谢谢网友给出权威链接。

Early in the pandemic, some of the answers provided by public officials — who were scrambling to track the disease as it overwhelmed health systems — fed skepticism. Last April, Deborah Birx, MD, coordinator of the White House Coronavirus Task Force, said this when asked about people who have COVID-19 but die from preexisting conditions: “If someone dies with COVID-19, we are counting that as a COVID-19 death.”

That statement, combined with some state health officials saying they follow the same policy, sparked charges that the COVID-19 totals were inflated by deaths from other diseases and even auto accidents if the victims happened to have COVID-19. Federal and state governments gradually altered such policies over the spring and summer to say that in order for a death to be counted as a COVID-19 death, the disease had to have played a role.

下面是2020年4月7号新闻发布会 白宫Coronavirus Task Force协调专员Brix的回答

Speaker 24: (01:37:58)

This one’s for Dr. Fauci or Dr. Birx. Can you talk about your concerns about deaths being misreported by coronavirus because of either the testing standards or how they’re characterized.

Dr. Birx: (01:38:13)

So I think in this country we’ve taken a very liberal approach to mortality and I think the reporting here has been pretty straightforward over the last five to six weeks. Prior to that when there wasn’t testing in January and February, that’s a very different situation and unknown. There are other countries that if you had a preexisting condition and let’s say the virus caused you to go to the ICU and then have a heart or kidney problem, some countries are recording that as a heart issue or a kidney issue and not a COVID-19 death. Right now we’re still recording it and the great thing about having forms that come in and a form that has the ability to mark it as COVID-19 infection, the intent is right now that if someone dies with COVID-19 we are counting that as a COVID-19 death.

有些人因此指责covid死亡数目被夸大,殊不知美国(乃至西方)一直是这样计算流行病死亡的。

有些早期放开的国家,比如瑞典,就不再统计covid死亡了。

所有跟帖: 

这个有道理,也不排除病毒导致其他器官衰竭而死亡。谁在先,是心脏衰竭入院,还是病毒入院。 -笑薇.- 给 笑薇. 发送悄悄话 笑薇. 的博客首页 (45 bytes) () 12/15/2022 postreply 13:28:16

任何国家,作为国家,他怎么做是他们自己的事。 不然就不是国家了。 -Clivias007- 给 Clivias007 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 12/15/2022 postreply 13:30:04

做好自己的事,不要咧咧别国的事。 -Clivias007- 给 Clivias007 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 12/15/2022 postreply 13:30:54

您住哪个国家、为什么到我楼下“咧咧”? -玻璃坊- 给 玻璃坊 发送悄悄话 玻璃坊 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 12/15/2022 postreply 13:32:17

能咧咧别的楼不能咧咧别的国家,这是您的规矩? -玻璃坊- 给 玻璃坊 发送悄悄话 玻璃坊 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 12/15/2022 postreply 13:36:34

楼主不能定法律,国家可以。不服不行。 -Clivias007- 给 Clivias007 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 12/15/2022 postreply 13:48:27

哪个国家法律规定不能“咧咧”这个国家?愿闻其详 -玻璃坊- 给 玻璃坊 发送悄悄话 玻璃坊 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 12/15/2022 postreply 14:47:51

看到了,注意a cause of death not necessarily the or major cause of -玻璃坊- 给 玻璃坊 发送悄悄话 玻璃坊 的博客首页 (73 bytes) () 12/15/2022 postreply 13:44:24

另外,对原帖做了更正,谢谢 -玻璃坊- 给 玻璃坊 发送悄悄话 玻璃坊 的博客首页 (75 bytes) () 12/15/2022 postreply 15:23:16

人家说了死人只有一个标准,不知道新冠死5000多是如何出台的?亦或是3年就死5000多?也可能其他都“重于泰山”了不叫死 -看戏人- 给 看戏人 发送悄悄话 (167 bytes) () 12/15/2022 postreply 14:05:31

啥意思?他家咋只死了5000,一定谎报,必须的,这么一来,就觉的死了100多万会好受些吗? -走顺路- 给 走顺路 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 12/15/2022 postreply 14:11:58

我说两个国家统计方法不同,所以不能直接比较五千对一百万 -玻璃坊- 给 玻璃坊 发送悄悄话 玻璃坊 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 12/15/2022 postreply 14:50:46

他家咋只死了5000,一定谎报,必须的,这么一来,就觉的死了100多万会好受些吗? - 走顺路 -玻璃坊- 给 玻璃坊 发送悄悄话 玻璃坊 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 12/15/2022 postreply 15:21:00

她的话是官方的?川普说用注射消毒水她也没说不是,也算官方的?CDC网站上才是官方的 -Sounders26- 给 Sounders26 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 12/15/2022 postreply 14:20:59

哪里说的瑞典不计算covid死亡了?去他们的CDC网页看看每周更新几次只是周末节日周一不更新。只要covid阳性,不管死 -看戏人- 给 看戏人 发送悄悄话 (195 bytes) () 12/15/2022 postreply 14:36:48

我记错了。我看worldmeter, 印象里他们去年初期开始就不更新了、还记得有报道瑞典不再统计新冠数据。刚刚又看了一下 -玻璃坊- 给 玻璃坊 发送悄悄话 玻璃坊 的博客首页 (165 bytes) () 12/15/2022 postreply 15:33:49

她说的就是官方啦? 拜总说给非洲$3500亿援助, 算不算官方? 白宫说就给$3.5亿, 谁才是美国真的官方? -清源白水- 给 清源白水 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 12/15/2022 postreply 14:38:54

查不到中国官方统计方法,纽时有一篇报道这样说的 -玻璃坊- 给 玻璃坊 发送悄悄话 玻璃坊 的博客首页 (4901 bytes) () 12/15/2022 postreply 14:53:09

我记得刚开始时规定,如果是因新冠死的病人,美国政府有补贴。后来很多人都说这造成医院倾向于把死因写成新冠。不知后来有没有改 -无形剑- 给 无形剑 发送悄悄话 无形剑 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 12/15/2022 postreply 15:06:09

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