今天晨报关于乌侵进俄的评论

本帖于 2024-08-16 09:22:05 时间, 由普通用户 Wtp003 编辑

很长的评论。自读的大意(理解若有误全文如下),乌用last, best troops, 目标是核设施,拿下可作谈判筹码。但俄似乎已知,故没成功。

下面二小图黄色highlight自己人认为形势不好,原来对阵人员1:1,现1:5。

 

Last week, Ukraine sprang a dramatic surprise attack. Using around 14,000 of its last, best troops, and a vast array of critical, impossible-to-replace war equipment, Ukraine tried to flip the script by invading Russia in a quiet, remote, sparsely populated area on the northeast corner of the map.

In other words, bantam-sized President Zelensky boldy let slip the dogs of war. But in this case, the dogs of war were more like the miniature poodles of war.

The most rational explanation for this desperate gamble is that Ukraine sought by surprise to snatch a Russian nuclear power plant lying about 70 kilometers from the two countries’ shared border. Had it worked, Ukraine could have traded the power plant back, forcing major Russian concessions. But Ukraine denies this was its objective, and so the “real story” remains, like so much else these days, murky and unclear.

It looks a lot like the Russians knew they were coming. So Ukraine’s most experienced units are now, a week later, rattling angrily around inside a killing box inside Russia, scores of miles from the power plant, far from reinforcements or supply lines, trying to … something. We don’t know yet.

Ukraine may have just served up its last remaining fighting force to Russia on a silver salver.

The bigger problem, as the Journal’s article soberly informed readers, was that, to scrape together 14,000 effective soldiers, Ukraine had to take them away from other places on the immense frontline. The predictable result is that Russia, already grinding inexorably westwards through Ukraine, is now skipping westwards in a sort of military frolic.

The Journal laid it on thick. The Ukrainian army is short of everything, people, guns, shells, tanks, air support, and ammunition. With scarce artillery shells on a strict budget, Ukrainians had turned to drones as a cheap alternative, but now the inexpensive drones aren’t working anymore “because Russian forces have increased their use of electronic jammers.”

So now it’s an old man’s war. In just a few months (“since the Spring”), the Ukrainians disastrously plunged from matching Russian troop figures one-to-one to an astonishing one-to-five ratio, and the few replacement troops are mostly seasoned citizens:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The article was a major narrative shift. I expected, but didn’t find, the usual litany of quotes from military ‘experts’ about how Ukraine still has time to turn things around, given a few more billions and steady NATO support.

 

 

 

But this time, there was no happy optimistic take to balance the bad news. It was just relentless bad news.

 

 

 

To be fair, other media, like the NYT and the Wapo, were yesterday still penning delirious headlines about Ukraine’s daring invasion, featuring a swimmingly optimistic narrative of a Ukraine public relations victory, even if it’s not any kind of actual military success. Absent from those articles was any analysis of the ethics of trading thousands of men’s lives to score a few days of favorable headlines.

 

 

 

But since the Journal just carried the deep state’s vodka by running that humiliating fantasy about the Nordstream debacle, it smells like team spirit, and it hinted that the Journal’s article signals the real narrative switcheroo. There were a few other signs.

 

 

 

A pro-Ukraine, pro-Harris op-ed in Wednesday’s Politico advised the ‘Plan B’ candidate to stop ignoring the war and take a hard line with Russia. But to create a sense of urgency, the article surprisingly predicted a looming catastrophe for Ukraine:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Might it soon be time for Zelensky to cheerfully take one for the team?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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不知道为什么图末显,贴图见内 -Wtp003- 给 Wtp003 发送悄悄话 Wtp003 的博客首页 (155 bytes) () 08/16/2024 postreply 09:18:05

这个判断是错误的,一开始乌就不是这个战略意图,否则会全军直接扑向核电站,俄军两天后才有反应,到核电站才一百五十公里。 -咲媱- 给 咲媱 发送悄悄话 咲媱 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 08/16/2024 postreply 09:29:10

按照汽车的速度,是三个小时,快一点一个半小时都能到,都不用加油就能赶到突袭成功。那个时候俄根本就没有反应。 -咲媱- 给 咲媱 发送悄悄话 咲媱 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 08/16/2024 postreply 09:31:22

真正的目的完全不是他们说的那样,而是在俄内部制造内出血,尽量的从内部消耗俄军。现在俄不从乌东调装备是赶不走乌军的 -咲媱- 给 咲媱 发送悄悄话 咲媱 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 08/16/2024 postreply 09:51:26

各人的判断不一样很正常。这个话题相对其它政论的有个好处;不会太久战争发展的走势就可说明问题。至于才150里,不知道 -Wtp003- 给 Wtp003 发送悄悄话 Wtp003 的博客首页 (260 bytes) () 08/16/2024 postreply 10:54:02

基辅方向是层层设防的,而俄核电站方向,没有防备,而且有高速路到达。目的如果真的是那个,直接上高速飙车过去抢。俄没有防备 -咲媱- 给 咲媱 发送悄悄话 咲媱 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 08/16/2024 postreply 11:11:58

你确信俄对核电站没有防备?换个角度,乌顺手拿下核电站,影响力绝对不比现在干的小,百利而无一害,为什么不干? -Wtp003- 给 Wtp003 发送悄悄话 Wtp003 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 08/16/2024 postreply 12:46:26

能有多大的防备?乌的是重装部队,坦克开过来,对付里面拿步枪的防备,简直就是完虐,现在他们还在挖战壕围绕核电站放坦克 -咲媱- 给 咲媱 发送悄悄话 咲媱 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 08/16/2024 postreply 14:06:41

我认为乌不想打呆仗,如果拿下核电站,那后面就要围绕核电站来打攻防战,机动性就大大降低了。 -咲媱- 给 咲媱 发送悄悄话 咲媱 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 08/16/2024 postreply 14:09:37

他们应该是另有图谋。 -咲媱- 给 咲媱 发送悄悄话 咲媱 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 08/16/2024 postreply 14:10:27

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