最近this American Life 有一集The Florida Experiment

https://www.thisamericanlife.org/805/the-florida-experiment

Governor Ron DeSantis is running for president on the argument that he'll do for America what he's done for Florida. So what's it like in Florida?

我觉得挺有意思的，不是一边倒，说了不同的面。 这个有点长，不用听，只是提提我眼里比较不错的节目