美国大饥荒饿死700万人
我们这一代人知道一些血零零的数字,600犹太人,南京30万人,3年自然灾害3000万人。准不准? 一是天晓得,二是还不能说没这个数字。因为已经上升到了政治高度。
1960年代,中国有6亿8千万人口,饿死3000万就是4.4%的人口。 3000万的数字怎么来的? 是根据每年的从人口的变化推算出来的。 准不准无所谓,但是它是一个诋毁社会主义制度的重要证据。
大家都知道美国有great depression,但是鲜有人知在美国也同样有饿死人的岁月。 多少? 700万 . 按当时美国1亿3千万人口,就是5.4%。 绝对不输于中国的。当然它绝对不能算作民主社会、或资本主义社会的缺点。 这个不好讲。
这700万的数字怎么来的? 也是根据每年的从人口的变化推算出来的。 700万人准不准,天晓得。 但大家不妨看一下一些人的叙述:
700万人准不准,天晓得。 但大家不妨看一下一些人的叙述:
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Tracy says:
May 26, 2008 at 11:58 am
I watched a movie in an African American studies class that dealt with people starving in the south during the depression. Wish I could remember the name. One elderly lady told a story she had heard (urban legend?) about a man who worked for the gas company coming to shut off a family’s gas. She begged him to wait until she cooked dinner. She was cooking the family dog. (美国人多爱自己的狗,这相当于吃死人)
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Leila Abu-Saba says:
May 26, 2008 at 1:04 pm
My middle-class grandparents, a preacher and his wife in rural Virginia, survived because their parishioners paid them in produce and proteins: rabbits etc. One time a parishioner gave them a whole bunch of dead rabbits and my grandmother skinned, cooked and canned the lot of them. She kept her canned goods in a crawl space beneath the church altar – sent her boys in and out with the loot – cooler temperatures.
Stitching underpants out of flour sacks. Oranges once a year at Christmas. (这日子,我们小时候也不会是这样子的) Making paper “spills” (stove lighter straws) for Christmas presents. Etc. etc.
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Tom Ness says:
May 26, 2008 at 6:06 pm
From my own family’s oral histories:
As for desperate workers being exploited during the Great Depression, the father of a childhood friend told me about a brick factory in Red Bluff, California where laborers would line up at the gate every day for work. The men hired were required to run, not walk, with wheelbarrows full of bricks until they couldn’t run anymore, then they were replaced with the next man in line. (中国现在好像还没这么剥削工人的吧)
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February 3, 2010 at 12:10 pm
I have been researching the Depression lately, and have come across this information:
The CCC paid $30 a month, yes. The worker received $5 a month of that amount for spending money. The rest was sent to the worker’s family, for their use. If the worker had no family, it was invested for him until he got out. Even then, that was not much money, but it was a lot more than nothing. (干一个月$30,只能拿到$5零花)
As to the deaths from starvation? The various books give anecdotal evidence of it, but rarely address the issue. The ones that do point out that the authorities of the time would not allow starvation to be listed as a cause of death. It had to be some generic term, like ‘heart failure’ or ‘vicissitude’. I guess it looked bad to admit that Americans were starving to death. Do I think they were? Absolutely. How many? There’s really no way to know. (这个根中国好像一样哎,为了不给民主社会摸黑,不要说是饿死的)