by the same token, unless you have driven many 03 sunfires

you can't really compare them then?????

come on now, I was making a general statement about pontiacs, and now you have changed the subject. If you want to say your opinion is right and everyone else's is wrong, now, that is a different arguement.

You had driven a pontiac for couple days, I had one for close to 10 years. you do the math.