Sarah Ferguson 画
HP: First, what made you decide to paint Hillary in the nude? Do you view her gaze as confrontational or merely self-possessed?
SF: It was a photo of Hillary that I found on Getty Images that pre-figured the painting. She was staring directly at the camera in this deadpan way. It was a naked expression and it needed a body to go with it. So I collaged some photos of body parts from different woman. I make lots of collages, but this one had to be painted, I mean, it had to be made real in the way that paint can make illusions real. I think her expression in the painting is one of self-possession and confrontational only because it’s not easy like a seduction. She’s not asking for our approval. She’s not eroticized at all. She is just standing there, silently demanding, “Take me as I am, baggage and all.”
Some of the reactions to this painting have really surprised me. It made a woman cry, in a good way, at a gallery in New Orleans. It totally pissed off a woman in my studio at SVA (School of Visual Arts in New York). Thank god there were lots of people around because I couldn’t shake her off. She was yelling at me, “Why did you paint her like that? You hate her! Admit it!” and all I could say was, “No, I like Hillary! Really!” and we went back and forth like this and I was getting more and more upset until Jerry Saltz walked in and said, ‘Look, some people just can’t handle casual nudity!” But the strangest reaction for me was when an old man, while standing in front of the painting, began explaining to me why women should never shave their pubic hair. It had something to do with friction during intercourse.
HP: Tell me about your "Hillary & I" site.
SF: That was back in ’08 at the height of the primary. I was having these conversations with Hillary, giving voice to the mini-Machiavelli inside me. I was advising her, flirting with her, keeping company so to speak. I loved crafting those conversations. I was so into it to the extent that when I claimed to be crying or laughing, I really was! It was terrible watching her bow out, I wanted more than anything to be able to see what she was made of, you know, the fate versus character thing. I wanted to witness that with Hillary. Plus I wasn’t excited about Obama. I knew he was the status quo candidate, primarily because his entire shtick was about change. Funny how that works. As soon as I heard Hillary would be Secretary of State I thought, ok, here comes Cowboy Diplomacy Act II. Remember how she kept saying ‘The era of cowboy diplomacy is over!”? What she really meant was, ‘I’m going to do it much better, just watch.” And sure enough, Hillary totally mastered the tactics. You’re either with us or against us! But this time, threats are unnecessary. Of course you want to be with us! Again this is not about whether I agree with a particular policy or not. I’m just talking about the form of politics and how it’s practiced. She’s incredibly gifted.
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