意大利已送90血样到一荷兰实验室检测新冠,30阳性, 30阴性,30 2018 样品。

来源: wwni60 2021-06-02 08:11:11 [] [旧帖] [给我悄悄话] 本文已被阅读: 次 (6769 bytes)

"WHO is in contact with the researchers that had published the original paper. A collaboration with partner laboratories has been set up for further testing," a WHO spokesman said. 

  The spokesman said the WHO was aware that the researchers are planning to publish a follow-up report "in the near future". 

  He said the UN agency has contacted all researchers who have published or provided information on samples collected in 2019 that were reported to have tested positive for SARS-CoV-2, but does not yet have the final interpretation of the results. 

  The Italian researchers' findings, published by the INT's scientific magazine Tumori Journal, showed neutralising antibodies to SARS-CoV-2 in blood taken from healthy volunteers in Italy in October 2019 during a lung cancer screening trial. 

  Most of the volunteers were from Lombardy, the northern region around Milan, which was the first and hardest hit by the virus in Italy. 

  "None of the studies published so far have ever questioned the geographical origin," Apolone told Reuters. 

  "The growing doubt is that the virus, probably less powerful compared to later months, was circulating in China long before the reported cases," Apolone added. 

  DUTCH TEST 

  The WHO chose the laboratory of the Erasmus University in Rotterdam for the re-test, Emanuele Montomoli, co-author of the original study and professor of Public Health at the Molecular Medicine Department in the University of Siena, said. 

  The Erasmus University did not reply to requests for comment. 

  Italian researchers sent the team in Rotterdam 30 biological samples from October-December 2019 that they had found positive, 30 samples from the same period they had tested negative and 30 samples from as far back as 2018, negative. 

  "We sent them blind, that means our colleagues did not know which samples were positive and which negative," Apolone said. 

  "They rechecked our samples with commercial tests, which are much less sensitive than the ones we devised and validated," Montomoli said. 

  Despite the differences in the two detection methods, both Italian scientists said they were satisfied with the results, delivered to them in late February, adding that they could not comment further until the team of Italian and Dutch scientists have published their findings. 

  "We did not say in our study that we could establish without a doubt that the coronavirus, later sequenced in Wuhan, was already circulating in Italy in October," Montomoli said. 

  "We only found the response to the virus, namely the antibodies. So we can say that this coronavirus or a very similar one, perhaps a less transmissible variant, was circulating here in October," he added. 

  (Reporting by Emilio Parodi; Editing by Keith Weir and Alexander Smith) 

所有跟帖: 

期待中国将数千血样送到第三国测试。 -wwni60- 给 wwni60 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 06/02/2021 postreply 08:13:12

重点结论是“later sequenced in Wuhan, was already circulating in Italy -bedrock29- 给 bedrock29 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 06/02/2021 postreply 08:22:16

这个阳性率已经高到不知道在测什么的程度,或者是测什么都阳性。今天随机找60份血样应该也不会这么高吧 -金笔- 给 金笔 发送悄悄话 金笔 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 06/02/2021 postreply 08:31:06

这是个大疑点。 -weijiashan- 给 weijiashan 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 06/02/2021 postreply 08:33:35

也许也许也许?! -金笔- 给 金笔 发送悄悄话 金笔 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 06/02/2021 postreply 08:37:05

why not? what you can expect from the blood sample of health peo -brav- 给 brav 发送悄悄话 brav 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 06/02/2021 postreply 08:46:02

why not?! -金笔- 给 金笔 发送悄悄话 金笔 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 06/02/2021 postreply 09:25:35

刚看了那篇广州阴转阳的文章吧? 敏感性,特异性,真阳率...现学现卖,得了几个新词赶快过来冒充科学小达人。假不假? -dapdap- 给 dapdap 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 06/02/2021 postreply 09:30:04

看下面。 -dapdap- 给 dapdap 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 06/02/2021 postreply 10:15:48

这是一个可怜的人。 -dapdap- 给 dapdap 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 06/02/2021 postreply 11:50:19

看上面。 -dapdap- 给 dapdap 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 06/02/2021 postreply 10:16:39

信不信不重要,没必要那点事儿天天挂嘴上,增加不了说服力还让人觉得特浅薄。 -dapdap- 给 dapdap 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 06/02/2021 postreply 09:51:15

30阳性样品是已知,看荷兰能否重复。90样品是随机排列。 -wwni60- 给 wwni60 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 06/02/2021 postreply 08:53:53

已知什么? -金笔- 给 金笔 发送悄悄话 金笔 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 06/02/2021 postreply 09:03:30

已知阳性,意大利将其混人60阴性样品, 看荷兰人能否重复。 如能,证明新冠在2019-11已经存在。 -wwni60- 给 wwni60 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 06/02/2021 postreply 09:19:51

请您先登陆,再发跟帖!

发现Adblock插件

如要继续浏览
请支持本站 请务必在本站关闭/移除任何Adblock

关闭Adblock后 请点击

请参考如何关闭Adblock/Adblock plus

安装Adblock plus用户请点击浏览器图标
选择“Disable on www.wenxuecity.com”

安装Adblock用户请点击图标
选择“don't run on pages on this domain”