my take on hard money loans...

来源: jy101 2010-08-30 19:38:31 [] [博客] [旧帖] [给我悄悄话] 本文已被阅读: 次 (1981 bytes)
I use hard money loan often, to me it is just a normal way of business, I use it mainly for short term flipping(less than 6 month), which I had done much lately, interest rate I pay between 9% to 13% depends on length of time.

I mainly use one same lender, he knows me well, and I gave him 1st lien on a property that I own free and clear, so I can use the money any time, no question asked, and I don't have to put lien on each and every property I try to flip, at the end of 6 month, I either sell the property or refi, then pay the investor back, I had utilize this way of operation over few dozen times,

what I am try to point out here is, hard money lending has a huge risk, and it is not for every investor. what makes the project work is mainly rely on experience of the borrower, if the borrower can flip the property within 6 month, everyone is happen, if the property sit over a year, then the investor will begin to worry, especially new investors.

there is house I pass by almost everyday, I had an offer on it once, the basement wall caved in, cost about 11k to fix, anyway, I lost to some new kid on the block, he must just came back from some guru camp, borrowed some hard money and try to flip it, now 2 years later, the basement wall still caved in, house is all mold, what an eye sore to the neighborhood, in the case, the hard money lender had to formally foreclosure the property and end up with a piece dump, the house still worth 95k if all finish up, but now it may another 35-40k to finish up.

VA-landlord is a good realtor, and experienced, I am sure many people trust him, but try to borrow money in an open forum, is not such good idea.

and bEsc is also right about the risk involve, if anyone willing to do some hard money lending, make sure you have 1st lien on mortgage, if you sit as the 2nd, you might as well forget the deal..

haha, just IMHO, what do I know, just a dump 掏大粪 de....



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To me, the first thing that seems "unfair" to investors is -Conehead- 给 Conehead 发送悄悄话 Conehead 的博客首页 (147 bytes) () 08/30/2010 postreply 19:48:07

何以见的? 他自己不拿钱出来吗? -worriedmom1- 给 worriedmom1 发送悄悄话 worriedmom1 的博客首页 (75 bytes) () 08/30/2010 postreply 19:49:38

I don't think he said that. -Conehead- 给 Conehead 发送悄悄话 Conehead 的博客首页 (218 bytes) () 08/30/2010 postreply 19:52:16

ok, I got it. This is kind of bridge loan. That is a different s -worriedmom1- 给 worriedmom1 发送悄悄话 worriedmom1 的博客首页 (257 bytes) () 08/30/2010 postreply 19:55:38

Who wants to do that? Let me know. -va_landlord- 给 va_landlord 发送悄悄话 va_landlord 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 08/30/2010 postreply 19:55:42

地主不要生气. 我多点嘴, 帮大家分析下. 也许你就能弄到 -worriedmom1- 给 worriedmom1 发送悄悄话 worriedmom1 的博客首页 (7 bytes) () 08/30/2010 postreply 19:56:35

I don't mean you. Someone said a person use investor's fund -va_landlord- 给 va_landlord 发送悄悄话 va_landlord 的博客首页 (113 bytes) () 08/30/2010 postreply 20:05:31

地主啊, 您这个脾气可揽不来财. 我劝你把思路写清楚, 好 -worriedmom1- 给 worriedmom1 发送悄悄话 worriedmom1 的博客首页 (69 bytes) () 08/30/2010 postreply 20:06:42

你搞错了.我不是对你的. -va_landlord- 给 va_landlord 发送悄悄话 va_landlord 的博客首页 (173 bytes) () 08/30/2010 postreply 20:10:15

Ok, let's compare notes. -Conehead- 给 Conehead 发送悄悄话 Conehead 的博客首页 (289 bytes) () 08/30/2010 postreply 20:14:59

"when" = "why" of course :-) -Conehead- 给 Conehead 发送悄悄话 Conehead 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 08/30/2010 postreply 20:18:59

我觉得这样的话我倒是可以考虑的. 我们把房子买下, 地主 -worriedmom1- 给 worriedmom1 发送悄悄话 worriedmom1 的博客首页 (159 bytes) () 08/30/2010 postreply 20:19:41

My goodness- -va_landlord- 给 va_landlord 发送悄悄话 va_landlord 的博客首页 (377 bytes) () 08/30/2010 postreply 20:20:25

我想知道这是在说谁---It is me -Superblue- 给 Superblue 发送悄悄话 (1013 bytes) () 08/31/2010 postreply 08:07:12

其实没什么公平不公平 -越王剑- 给 越王剑 发送悄悄话 (158 bytes) () 08/30/2010 postreply 19:59:04

公平与否当然也要分析. 这涉及到我们找老地主要多少利息的大问题. -worriedmom1- 给 worriedmom1 发送悄悄话 worriedmom1 的博客首页 (65 bytes) () 08/30/2010 postreply 20:00:47

作为投资者,做风险评估是你的事 -越王剑- 给 越王剑 发送悄悄话 (75 bytes) () 08/30/2010 postreply 20:13:51

所以我打了个"引号"啊,愿打愿挨嘛 -Conehead- 给 Conehead 发送悄悄话 Conehead 的博客首页 (137 bytes) () 08/30/2010 postreply 20:04:17

不要乱讲. SEC的人正在我旁边办公室坐着检查呢. -worriedmom1- 给 worriedmom1 发送悄悄话 worriedmom1 的博客首页 (58 bytes) () 08/30/2010 postreply 20:09:17

I think SEC has a rule for "accredit investors" -Conehead- 给 Conehead 发送悄悄话 Conehead 的博客首页 (140 bytes) () 08/30/2010 postreply 20:18:08

Very well said. In China, typical hard money interest rate is 25 -beachlver- 给 beachlver 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 08/30/2010 postreply 20:03:56

顶,俺又学习到了。 -比花花还花- 给 比花花还花 发送悄悄话 比花花还花 的博客首页 (38 bytes) () 08/30/2010 postreply 20:08:29

JY's post is priceless for everybody -sunskitehomes- 给 sunskitehomes 发送悄悄话 sunskitehomes 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 08/31/2010 postreply 08:04:43

Not a good idea to promot borrowing on open forum -sunskitehomes- 给 sunskitehomes 发送悄悄话 sunskitehomes 的博客首页 (39 bytes) () 08/31/2010 postreply 08:06:02

very well said and very fair -flying_bird- 给 flying_bird 发送悄悄话 (160 bytes) () 08/31/2010 postreply 09:37:18

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