Shakespeare was also a Scientist

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Covering the 15th and 16th Centuries, the Renaissance signified Europe's cultural revival. It was also a portal through which Western Civilization began impacting the world. From then on, the world would never be the same again.


William Shakespeare was a Renaissance man who respected no walls or barriers on his way to explore the cosmos. In his mind, therefore, the dichotomy between art and science never existed, in sharp contrast to what our colleges tell us today. Merging art and science, Shakespeare addressed important philosophical issues confronting humanity. 


Making people laugh or cry is moving people. Moving people toward what? Toward modernity while turning away from mundanity. Enlightening and entertaining, Shakespeare's plays are a good mix of poetry and science. The following is an illuminating nugget:


Hamlet Act 2, Scene 2

(Hamlet's Love Letter to Ophelia)

To the celestial, and my soul’s idol, the
most beautified Ophelia….

Doubt thou the stars are fire,
Doubt that the sun doth move,
Doubt truth to be a liar,
But never doubt I love.

Here, in Hamlet's moment of agony, Shakespeare met Copernicus, and love met astronomy. Copernicus proved that the earth revolves around the sun. He thus rubbed his geocentric church the wrong way. He was inviting trouble to himself. Fortunately or unfortunately though, he died too soon to face persecution.

On the stage, Hamlet's vow of love was Copernican heliocentrism, inviting doubt and fear too. If Ophelia doubted him, he implied, he would be willing to pay the ultimate price. That being the case, romantic love and astronomical truth made sense of each other, poetically and scientifically.

"All the world's a stage." This stage was and still is revolving around the Shakespearean sun.


Author: renqiulan


Hamlet Act 2 Scene 2 Summary & Analysis



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你近来迷上了莎士比亚吗? -shuier- 给 shuier 发送悄悄话 shuier 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2023 postreply 20:42:49

“迷上了”?打从高中起就一直爱读莎士比亚的,今天也不忘重读再重读。你呢?你念文科的。 -renqiulan- 给 renqiulan 发送悄悄话 renqiulan 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2023 postreply 20:47:23

你不早就封我为“文小姐”吗? -shuier- 给 shuier 发送悄悄话 shuier 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2023 postreply 20:50:32

对呀,还封你为“武将军”呢。就像他老人家封丁玲一样:“昨天文小姐,今日武将军。” 哈哈! -renqiulan- 给 renqiulan 发送悄悄话 renqiulan 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2023 postreply 20:55:36

写过《太阳晒在桑乾河上》的丁玲,她那时候在延安吧? -shuier- 给 shuier 发送悄悄话 shuier 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2023 postreply 20:58:54

对,她在延安做老编。我不喜欢那部《太阳》小说,倒喜欢她较早的一部作品。 -renqiulan- 给 renqiulan 发送悄悄话 renqiulan 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2023 postreply 21:03:17

不要卖关子,是哪一部? -shuier- 给 shuier 发送悄悄话 shuier 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2023 postreply 21:06:40

水儿啊水儿,我最喜欢丁玲的《水》。据说,鲁迅推介茅盾的《子夜》和丁玲的《水》。 -renqiulan- 给 renqiulan 发送悄悄话 renqiulan 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2023 postreply 21:13:53

水儿一定要读读《水》啦! -shuier- 给 shuier 发送悄悄话 shuier 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 06/26/2023 postreply 08:37:49

你对延安,对老毛的了解真深!我只读过西行漫记,觉得好玩 -颤音- 给 颤音 发送悄悄话 颤音 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2023 postreply 21:02:53

颤子太夸纫子了。对他老人家的瞭解,我至多是小学程度罢了。 -renqiulan- 给 renqiulan 发送悄悄话 renqiulan 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2023 postreply 21:09:24

你真谦虚,你了解的远多于绝大多数中国人,我真好奇的是斯诺那些对两个世界都有了解的,最终是否看破了社会主义哪? -颤音- 给 颤音 发送悄悄话 颤音 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2023 postreply 21:16:19

Edgar Snow was fully committed to the cause of Maoism. -renqiulan- 给 renqiulan 发送悄悄话 renqiulan 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2023 postreply 21:22:32

hard to understand him -颤音- 给 颤音 发送悄悄话 颤音 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2023 postreply 21:25:52

Snow was not alone. Leftism was popular in the 1930s. -renqiulan- 给 renqiulan 发送悄悄话 renqiulan 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2023 postreply 21:29:21

对,记得有一位女士,史沫特莱,也写了本延安的书 -颤音- 给 颤音 发送悄悄话 颤音 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2023 postreply 21:35:41

Agnes Smedley was quite a well-known leftist journalist. -renqiulan- 给 renqiulan 发送悄悄话 renqiulan 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2023 postreply 21:43:45

Let me google her. -shuier- 给 shuier 发送悄悄话 shuier 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 06/26/2023 postreply 08:51:27

Interestingly, Mao reportedly regarded Snow as a US spy. -renqiulan- 给 renqiulan 发送悄悄话 renqiulan 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2023 postreply 21:31:44

这个第一次听说,不该惊讶,很多投保延安的也被怀疑是国民党的间谍,文革时倒霉的很多 -颤音- 给 颤音 发送悄悄话 颤音 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2023 postreply 21:37:05

Practically, Snow provided Mao with a back channel. -renqiulan- 给 renqiulan 发送悄悄话 renqiulan 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2023 postreply 21:40:57

Spies were everywhere. Or were they? -shuier- 给 shuier 发送悄悄话 shuier 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 06/26/2023 postreply 08:58:27

Edgar Snow. Let me google him. -shuier- 给 shuier 发送悄悄话 shuier 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 06/26/2023 postreply 08:50:21

沙是诗人,剧作家,也是演员!伟啊! -lovecat08- 给 lovecat08 发送悄悄话 lovecat08 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2023 postreply 21:17:18

对呀。谢谢猫姐!莎士比亚首先是文艺复兴的健将。我不滿意文艺复兴这个译名,因为未能反映科学复兴这个史实。 -renqiulan- 给 renqiulan 发送悄悄话 renqiulan 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2023 postreply 21:27:19

什么文艺复兴,就是美国人好打马赛克的艺术作品啊:) -王武- 给 王武 发送悄悄话 王武 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2023 postreply 22:42:43

文艺复兴时代,还没有美国呢。王武先生说笑吧。无论怎样,谢谢! -renqiulan- 给 renqiulan 发送悄悄话 renqiulan 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2023 postreply 23:06:11

I don't quite follow 王武先生。 -shuier- 给 shuier 发送悄悄话 shuier 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 06/26/2023 postreply 08:53:16

是这样的,有位美国家长看到教材里的文艺复兴图片,说是色情作品。欧洲有很多裸体雕塑或油画,如果是美国,应该打马塞克:) -王武- 给 王武 发送悄悄话 王武 的博客首页 (133 bytes) () 06/26/2023 postreply 09:39:21

O My Gosh! Venus, David and the likes have to be censored? -shuier- 给 shuier 发送悄悄话 shuier 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 06/26/2023 postreply 11:42:38

I don't think so. -shuier- 给 shuier 发送悄悄话 shuier 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 06/26/2023 postreply 11:45:47

Yes if in the states. I remember USA censored Super Bowl -王武- 给 王武 发送悄悄话 王武 的博客首页 (51 bytes) () 06/26/2023 postreply 12:21:14

Yes, it happened in the era of sexual puritanism. -shuier- 给 shuier 发送悄悄话 shuier 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 06/26/2023 postreply 13:07:49

王武先生 is a learned gentleman. Thank you! -shuier- 给 shuier 发送悄悄话 shuier 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 06/26/2023 postreply 13:11:40

Thank you Suier! I am not like a gentleman :) -王武- 给 王武 发送悄悄话 王武 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 06/26/2023 postreply 17:32:08

... -shuier- 给 shuier 发送悄悄话 shuier 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 06/26/2023 postreply 08:51:56

水儿对他老人家的瞭解,至多是幼儿园程度。 -shuier- 给 shuier 发送悄悄话 shuier 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 06/26/2023 postreply 08:48:20

Hello, everyone! Shakespeare is being left out in the cold. -寒苇- 给 寒苇 发送悄悄话 寒苇 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2023 postreply 21:16:57

My bad. I apologize! -renqiulan- 给 renqiulan 发送悄悄话 renqiulan 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2023 postreply 21:18:31

中国也有类似沙的人?谁啊? -lovecat08- 给 lovecat08 发送悄悄话 lovecat08 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2023 postreply 21:27:34

曹雪芹,a great writer or equal to Shakespeare? -AP33912- 给 AP33912 发送悄悄话 AP33912 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2023 postreply 21:32:00

他也是提过太阳转?开个玩笑 -颤音- 给 颤音 发送悄悄话 颤音 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2023 postreply 21:34:39

OK. The sun does orbit the center of the Milky Way. -renqiulan- 给 renqiulan 发送悄悄话 renqiulan 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2023 postreply 21:37:40

书里的老太太就是太阳:) -AP33912- 给 AP33912 发送悄悄话 AP33912 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2023 postreply 21:44:00

Hahaha! -shuier- 给 shuier 发送悄悄话 shuier 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 06/26/2023 postreply 08:55:31

好思!赞敏! -lovecat08- 给 lovecat08 发送悄悄话 lovecat08 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2023 postreply 21:35:14

Hi, AP! I won't even attempt to make a comparison. -renqiulan- 给 renqiulan 发送悄悄话 renqiulan 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2023 postreply 21:45:50

no one knows whom 曹 is in real life :) -AP33912- 给 AP33912 发送悄悄话 AP33912 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2023 postreply 21:47:00

比较文学,也是文学!嘻! -lovecat08- 给 lovecat08 发送悄悄话 lovecat08 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2023 postreply 21:48:26

You'd better not. -shuier- 给 shuier 发送悄悄话 shuier 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 06/26/2023 postreply 08:56:48

文学科学兼修的作家? -renqiulan- 给 renqiulan 发送悄悄话 renqiulan 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2023 postreply 21:35:05

红楼梦比罗蜜欧朱丽叶,复杂多了,诗也不少! -lovecat08- 给 lovecat08 发送悄悄话 lovecat08 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2023 postreply 21:38:15

更多的文化内含。 -AP33912- 给 AP33912 发送悄悄话 AP33912 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2023 postreply 21:43:00

曹当然也是文学科学家,红楼梦里的食品,或物种分类,应用,细说的头头是道。 -lovecat08- 给 lovecat08 发送悄悄话 lovecat08 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2023 postreply 21:46:37

俺说中国或只有一大名著:) -AP33912- 给 AP33912 发送悄悄话 AP33912 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2023 postreply 21:49:00

《金瓶梅》也是巨著。毛澤東曾說: "《金瓶梅》是《红楼梦》的祖宗。" -春日遲遲- 给 春日遲遲 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 06/26/2023 postreply 16:21:28

春日君有道理。又,中外钜著大抵都在时代国度局限里刻画出跨时代跨国度的人性,令后世人普世人共鸣。 -renqiulan- 给 renqiulan 发送悄悄话 renqiulan 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 06/26/2023 postreply 21:13:20

给AP,大姆指,点赞! -lovecat08- 给 lovecat08 发送悄悄话 lovecat08 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2023 postreply 21:50:20

中国在传教士之前,没科学家有理论家。 -AP33912- 给 AP33912 发送悄悄话 AP33912 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2023 postreply 22:03:00

感觉上,曹雪芹跟同时代的清朝人一样,还未认识到地球是环绕太阳的一个行星。格物方面,曹可能接近著《梦溪笔谈》的沈括的水平。 -renqiulan- 给 renqiulan 发送悄悄话 renqiulan 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2023 postreply 21:56:16

Let me do some research on this. -shuier- 给 shuier 发送悄悄话 shuier 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 06/26/2023 postreply 09:01:37

I prefer not to compare apples to oranges. -renqiulan- 给 renqiulan 发送悄悄话 renqiulan 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2023 postreply 21:49:14

不是比较,是少有的也是诗人,剧作家,演员的类举啊! -lovecat08- 给 lovecat08 发送悄悄话 lovecat08 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2023 postreply 21:53:11

在共同领域上比较。例如,可将关汉卿与莎士比亚作个文学比较的。 -renqiulan- 给 renqiulan 发送悄悄话 renqiulan 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2023 postreply 22:00:25

沙,曹哭说:我们不是蘋果或桔子!我们是才“人”!哈哈哈。。。。。。。。。。。 -lovecat08- 给 lovecat08 发送悄悄话 lovecat08 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2023 postreply 22:00:34

沙士比亚跟曹雪芹通话了,两者互夸自己的萍果手机棒棒哒。 -renqiulan- 给 renqiulan 发送悄悄话 renqiulan 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2023 postreply 22:19:43

对!他俩人也去猛查GPT,谁伟大过谁?让GPT去被挨骂吧! -lovecat08- 给 lovecat08 发送悄悄话 lovecat08 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2023 postreply 22:22:25

GPT很圆滑,两面讨好,总之结论是“不相上下,难分伯仲”。 -renqiulan- 给 renqiulan 发送悄悄话 renqiulan 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2023 postreply 23:09:27

Everyone wins. Perfect GPT. -shuier- 给 shuier 发送悄悄话 shuier 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 06/26/2023 postreply 09:02:49

That's good for business. -renqiulan- 给 renqiulan 发送悄悄话 renqiulan 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 06/26/2023 postreply 20:35:15

马铃薯的头,也出来了。午夜谈沙剧,希望梦的是“仲夏夜梦”,而非“李尔王”。good night。 -lovecat08- 给 lovecat08 发送悄悄话 lovecat08 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2023 postreply 22:20:10

《仲夏夜之梦》,初夏就做起来。猫姐晚安! -renqiulan- 给 renqiulan 发送悄悄话 renqiulan 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 06/25/2023 postreply 23:11:29

Let me have apples and oranges for my salad. -shuier- 给 shuier 发送悄悄话 shuier 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 06/26/2023 postreply 08:59:59

Enjoy your idiomatic salad. -renqiulan- 给 renqiulan 发送悄悄话 renqiulan 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 06/26/2023 postreply 20:32:48

No idea. -shuier- 给 shuier 发送悄悄话 shuier 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 06/26/2023 postreply 08:54:55

Same here. -renqiulan- 给 renqiulan 发送悄悄话 renqiulan 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 06/26/2023 postreply 20:33:48

Right, Wei Wei. -shuier- 给 shuier 发送悄悄话 shuier 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 06/26/2023 postreply 08:54:10

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