回复:警察起诉开车超速的人需要什么条件?

来源: wxc2008 2007-11-09 18:01:31 [] [博客] [旧帖] [给我悄悄话] 本文已被阅读: 次 (3044 bytes)
CA Speed Trap Laws

Section 40802(b):
defines where "radar or other electronic devices" can be used to determine speed -- in essence, either on "local streets and roads" or on highways where a traffic survey has been conducted within the last five years. I find that California police are very familiar with this law, and with the local traffic surveys. I contested a radar ticket several years ago, and found that I was on a stretch that had recently been surveyed. If I had been two miles further I would have beaten the ticket.


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Another kind person sent me this additional info:

I have some additional information on the use of radar in California. To use radar, the enforced facility (road, highway, etc) must have a valid Speed Zone Survey, as your other correspondent noted. What he did not say, though, was the posted speed limit must be in accordance with the speed limit indicated by the survey. In other words, if the survey recommends a speed limit of 40 MPH, and the local jurisdiction posts "30 MPH" signs, any ticket written should be thrown out of court, irrespective of the transgressor's speed, since the police would be enforcing a speed limit not legally set.

Additionally, the appropriate standard for determining the proper speed limit is based on the 85th percentile of the surveyed speeds. the survey must set forth ANY justification for reduction of the recommended speed from the 85th percentile of the survey data. To put it another way, the law assumes arbitrarily that 85% of drivers are driving at or below the maximum safe speed, and 15% exceed it. Therefore, after the survey data are collected, a basic statistical analysis determines the 85th percentile, and--voila!--the recommended speed limit. (This figure is rounded to the nearest 5 MPH increment.)

Mitigating factors, which must be cited on the survey, include a high accident rate due to speed, hidden hazards (defined as those not readily apparent to the driver--if you can SEE it, it's not a hidden hazard, no matter how unusual), and others. Local agencies have gotten fairly creative in these justifications, but there must be something to justify a posted speed limit at less than the 85th percentile, or no valid ticket.

There are a couple of other things I failed to mention about Speed Zone Surveys in California. They are public documents, and cannot legally be withheld. Some jurisdictions don't want to give them out, but be persistent, and you will be rewarded. Also, Speed Zone Surveys don't apply to highway speeds--technically, a SZS is used to lower a speed limit from 65 MPH (55 where applicable). The law recognizes 65/55 as the absolute speed limit, with a SZS justifying a reduction. Bear in mind that not every speed limit lower than 55 is justified by a SZS. The important point to remember here is that those speed limits not enforced by RADAR need not be justified by a survey.

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