回答:现在很多民运人士还在说土共如何邪恶,可是对于年轻人来讲,如何解释一个邪恶的政权却让大陆人的生活越来越好

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Most ordinary people only cares about a stable life if their basic rights are not violated. If you or your family are not the target of the Chinese government for any reason and can live a basic life, those people do not feel the lack of basic human rights. That's majority of the population. But if for any reason, your interest are not lined up with the interest of the Chinese party, you can be a target for severe punishment.

If you and your family were targeted by the government simply because you are hard working and they like to share your wealth, you have no place to even fight for any injustice. Like what happened in the 50, 60, 70s.

If you have independent thinking and are not fooled by the propaganda or if you dare to voice any of different opinion or voice your unhappiness about the government policy, you are at the risk of being put into jail or losing your life. But the government still portrait you as a devil and your whole family will be affected. Just see how many people during the cultural revolution, Yu Luojin, Zhang Zhixin, even the 6.4. Tiananmen demonstration.

If you read the Chinese websites about Liu Xiaobo, it's so biased. The people were never given the chance to learn about the truth. I don't agree with some of Liu Xiaobu's comments, but he has the good intention for the country and why the Chinese government is so afraid of letting people know the facts?

Sadly, there are a good percent of people in China don't have good moral standards. They only cares about money and material gains. Their only standard for success is how much money that they makes. They can even bow or kneel down to the dictator if that's what need to gain materially.
For some people, they care about getting their wealth from the Chinese market. But they immigrate their family and kids to the western world at all costs. If you ask why, simply because they lack of trust of the government deeply in their heart.

People in China they are not happy about the government, but they don't dare to speak out. How many people would risk their and their love one's life for a word?

Look at the anger from 89 student movement, the political situation is even worse than that time. The evil acts and injustice are still happening, you are just not hearing the truth.

I pray that Chinese people will never suffer materially, but I also hope that people will not be punished for different political opinion.

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他们的名字会永垂青史,而你会遗臭万年。当年遇罗锦,张志新一样被你这祥的人骂的。 -qing_us- 给 qing_us 发送悄悄话 qing_us 的个人群组 (0 bytes) () 05/25/2018 postreply 12:39:21

I agree. This happens throughout the history. -qing_us- 给 qing_us 发送悄悄话 qing_us 的个人群组 (0 bytes) () 05/25/2018 postreply 12:50:31

民运做了什么咱不说,他做了什么就该遗臭万年呢?您给人定“遗臭万年”标准的时候,也太随意了吧? -davidhu1999- 给 davidhu1999 发送悄悄话 davidhu1999 的博客首页 davidhu1999 的个人群组 (0 bytes) () 05/25/2018 postreply 12:49:57

助纣为孽者,为邪恶摇旗呐喊者 -qing_us- 给 qing_us 发送悄悄话 qing_us 的个人群组 (0 bytes) () 05/25/2018 postreply 12:52:02

原来在这儿骂两句就该遗臭万年?那您总知道几个类似的,只因为骂过张志新等人(不能因为其他坏事哦)而遗臭的吧? -davidhu1999- 给 davidhu1999 发送悄悄话 davidhu1999 的博客首页 davidhu1999 的个人群组 (0 bytes) () 05/25/2018 postreply 12:56:47

At least, you cannot twist the history. Your kind will be cursed -qing_us- 给 qing_us 发送悄悄话 qing_us 的个人群组 (0 bytes) () 05/25/2018 postreply 12:58:39

I seriously doubt you are a human being and even have a heart -qing_us- 给 qing_us 发送悄悄话 qing_us 的个人群组 (0 bytes) () 05/25/2018 postreply 13:14:44

You don’t have sympathy for innocents -qing_us- 给 qing_us 发送悄悄话 qing_us 的个人群组 (0 bytes) () 05/25/2018 postreply 21:38:11

你们太厉害了,可以随便嘛人啊。。 -huluchuen- 给 huluchuen 发送悄悄话 huluchuen 的博客首页 huluchuen 的个人群组 (0 bytes) () 05/25/2018 postreply 13:06:01

你不知道所有都是能量守恒吗?扔出去的会转回来。太厉害太凶会使人严重逆反心理。你们亲和一点是正能量。 -huluchuen- 给 huluchuen 发送悄悄话 huluchuen 的博客首页 huluchuen 的个人群组 (0 bytes) () 05/25/2018 postreply 13:13:31

你说要杀西藏,台湾,新疆人比柴玲有过之而无不及吧 -qing_us- 给 qing_us 发送悄悄话 qing_us 的个人群组 (0 bytes) () 05/25/2018 postreply 21:39:45

Living is the basic that all people needs. -qing_us- 给 qing_us 发送悄悄话 qing_us 的个人群组 (116 bytes) () 05/25/2018 postreply 12:45:31

回答你 -五刀口- 给 五刀口 发送悄悄话 五刀口 的个人群组 (130 bytes) () 05/25/2018 postreply 12:39:33

我没有说国民党或台湾就是对的,只问你,你为什么还把家人送到美国来? -qing_us- 给 qing_us 发送悄悄话 qing_us 的个人群组 (0 bytes) () 05/25/2018 postreply 12:42:12

我告诉你为什么。我们这代人是文革后的大学生,我们的同龄人都是以能出国为荣的,那时的宣传是美国几乎是天堂 -五刀口- 给 五刀口 发送悄悄话 五刀口 的个人群组 (234 bytes) () 05/25/2018 postreply 12:52:37

Why does your family like US better? -qing_us- 给 qing_us 发送悄悄话 qing_us 的个人群组 (0 bytes) () 05/25/2018 postreply 12:57:42

主要两个原因,一,太太家也是生意人,她希望拓展她家的生意。二,孩子小,喜欢美国,不知道以后他们长大要面对的是什么 -五刀口- 给 五刀口 发送悄悄话 五刀口 的个人群组 (125 bytes) () 05/25/2018 postreply 13:02:07

中国有很多机会,其中一种机会就是做美国产品的代理,或者把中国的产品卖到美国。 -五刀口- 给 五刀口 发送悄悄话 五刀口 的个人群组 (0 bytes) () 05/25/2018 postreply 13:05:46

倒爷啊? -qing_us- 给 qing_us 发送悄悄话 qing_us 的个人群组 (0 bytes) () 05/25/2018 postreply 13:15:48

生意,好不好,要不说最简单的,代购,哈哈 -五刀口- 给 五刀口 发送悄悄话 五刀口 的个人群组 (0 bytes) () 05/25/2018 postreply 13:19:08

另外,如果民运人士不承认大陆的民生进步,那只能是越来越被边缘化,民运一些人也会越来越走向恐怖主义。 -五刀口- 给 五刀口 发送悄悄话 五刀口 的个人群组 (0 bytes) () 05/25/2018 postreply 12:41:49

Only you put word in their month. They talk about political situ -qing_us- 给 qing_us 发送悄悄话 qing_us 的个人群组 (0 bytes) () 05/25/2018 postreply 12:42:43

You twisted the facts for them -qing_us- 给 qing_us 发送悄悄话 qing_us 的个人群组 (0 bytes) () 05/25/2018 postreply 12:43:06

她的题目好像是承认大陆生活进步的,还问“为什么”。但具体内容,就只在说人权多差,而丝毫不涉及这个“为什么生活越来越好”了。 -davidhu1999- 给 davidhu1999 发送悄悄话 davidhu1999 的博客首页 davidhu1999 的个人群组 (0 bytes) () 05/25/2018 postreply 12:58:47

文不对题么。您文中说了很多中国政府怎么压制人权,以及为什么中国人不敢表达反对政府,可基本上没涉及“生活越来越好”的原因呀? -davidhu1999- 给 davidhu1999 发送悄悄话 davidhu1999 的博客首页 davidhu1999 的个人群组 (0 bytes) () 05/25/2018 postreply 12:43:08

If you cannot get it, that's fine. I truly understand your compr -qing_us- 给 qing_us 发送悄悄话 qing_us 的个人群组 (0 bytes) () 05/25/2018 postreply 12:47:29

comprehension skill. You never can get anything from other peopl -qing_us- 给 qing_us 发送悄悄话 qing_us 的个人群组 (0 bytes) () 05/25/2018 postreply 12:47:59

people's post. -qing_us- 给 qing_us 发送悄悄话 qing_us 的个人群组 (0 bytes) () 05/25/2018 postreply 12:48:47

您的贴子挺有观点的。不过咱不是朋友,我没兴趣捧您说的对的地方。您确实没有回答您题目中提的问题,这是明显的事实。 -davidhu1999- 给 davidhu1999 发送悄悄话 davidhu1999 的博客首页 davidhu1999 的个人群组 (0 bytes) () 05/25/2018 postreply 12:51:01

哪壶不开提哪壶 -勿来三- 给 勿来三 发送悄悄话 勿来三 的博客首页 勿来三 的个人群组 (167 bytes) () 05/25/2018 postreply 12:48:04

很好解释啊。人都是邪恶的,邪恶得法,就是王道 -tibuko- 给 tibuko 发送悄悄话 tibuko 的博客首页 tibuko 的个人群组 (46 bytes) () 05/25/2018 postreply 12:59:20

For now. It will not last forever. -qing_us- 给 qing_us 发送悄悄话 qing_us 的个人群组 (0 bytes) () 05/25/2018 postreply 13:04:24

不要跟再辩了,有些人很厉害很凶,以为可以此征服别人。不知道人说话温和并不等于软弱。 -huluchuen- 给 huluchuen 发送悄悄话 huluchuen 的博客首页 huluchuen 的个人群组 (0 bytes) () 05/25/2018 postreply 13:09:33

嗯,比如楼主骂这儿的同学“遗臭万年”,应该不属于“温和”的喽。 -davidhu1999- 给 davidhu1999 发送悄悄话 davidhu1999 的博客首页 davidhu1999 的个人群组 (0 bytes) () 05/25/2018 postreply 13:17:37

是大陆老百姓养活中共,而不是中共养活老百姓。一个统治集团凭什么不让老百姓过好日子。 -ThisMyWords- 给 ThisMyWords 发送悄悄话 ThisMyWords 的个人群组 (0 bytes) () 05/25/2018 postreply 13:09:05

谁说中共养活了老百姓,中共保持了中国的稳定,你们民运能保证这一点吗? -五刀口- 给 五刀口 发送悄悄话 五刀口 的个人群组 (0 bytes) () 05/25/2018 postreply 13:15:01

谁也不知道如果民运成功了会是什么结果,也许中国更好 -qing_us- 给 qing_us 发送悄悄话 qing_us 的个人群组 (0 bytes) () 05/25/2018 postreply 21:42:52

标题的问题显然在讨论“为什么能让生活越来越好”,您说的是“为什么统治集团应该。。。”。您没说错,但二者不是一回事。 -davidhu1999- 给 davidhu1999 发送悄悄话 davidhu1999 的博客首页 davidhu1999 的个人群组 (0 bytes) () 05/25/2018 postreply 13:20:34

只能说作者很厉害 把人家的一句评语说人家遗臭万年 -tianhong_cnd- 给 tianhong_cnd 发送悄悄话 tianhong_cnd 的个人群组 (0 bytes) () 05/25/2018 postreply 17:32:33

我是指那些总在助纣为虐的,不是一句话 -qing_us- 给 qing_us 发送悄悄话 qing_us 的个人群组 (0 bytes) () 05/25/2018 postreply 21:44:10

在中文论坛里用英语阐述观点,这是多么的傲慢啊,民运人士脱离群众太久,早就什么都不是了 -小深度- 给 小深度 发送悄悄话 小深度 的博客首页 小深度 的个人群组 (0 bytes) () 05/26/2018 postreply 08:53:32

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