199A 解读和问题

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我找到的资料:

https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-drop/n-19-07.pdf 

https://bakertilly.com/insights/new-regulations-provide-rental-real-estate-safe-harbor-for-20-percent-pass/

https://www.calt.iastate.edu/blogpost/irs-provides-trade-or-business-safe-harbor-under-199a-rental-property

有一段柠檬发了上来。不过后面的我觉得也很有意思,全部抄来,方便讨论。有一些用下划线标出,请大家一起看看原文再讨论。我的解读:

1. 有关是每个房子还是所有房子:答案是随便。IRS原文如下:

Solely for purposes of this safe harbor, a rental real estate enterprise is defined as an interest in real property held for the production of rents and may consist of an interest in multiple properties. The individual or RPE relying on this revenue procedure must hold the interest directly or through an entity disregarded as an entity separate from its owner under § 301.7701-3. Taxpayers must either treat each property held for the production of rents as a separate enterprise or treat all similar properties held for the production of rents (with the exception of those described in paragraph .05 of this section) as a single enterprise. 

2. 是不是自己要淘250小时的粪:不是,你的PM,handyman,水管工。。。 都算:

These activities may be performed by owners or employees, agents, or independent contractors of the owners.

3. 对不起,NNN商业地产不合格。

4. 如果用PM,那么今年开始就要记流水帐吗?PM某日收租花多少时间,handyman甲某日做A,水管工乙某日做B?PM肯做吗?

 

Safe harbor Factors

To meet the safe harbor requirements, the taxpayer must satisfy the following factors during the taxable year.

  • Maintain separate books and records to reflect income and expenses for each rental real estate enterprise;
  • For taxable years beginning prior to January 1, 2023, perform 250 or more hours of rental services per year with respect to the rental enterprise. 
    • For taxable years beginning after December 31, 2022, in any three of the five consecutive taxable years that end with the taxable year (or in each year for an enterprise held for less than five years), 250 or more hours of rental services are performed per year with respect to the rental real estate enterprise; and
  • The taxpayer maintains contemporaneous records, including time reports, logs, or similar documents, regarding the following:
    • hours of all services performed;
    • description of all services performed;
    • dates on which such services were performed; and
    • who performed the services.   

These records are to be made available for inspection at the request of IRS. The contemporaneous records requirement will not apply to taxable years beginning prior to January 1, 2019.

What rental services qualify?

Rental services, for purposes of the revenue procedure, include the following:

  • Advertising to rent or lease the real estate
  • Negotiating and executing leases
  • Verifying information contained in the prospective tenant applications
  • Collection of rent
  • Daily operation, maintenance, and repair of the property
  • Management of the real estate
  • Purchase of materials
  • Supervision of employees and independent contractors

These activities may be performed by owners or employees, agents, or independent contractors of the owners.

What activities do not count?

Time devoted to the following financial or investment management activities will not constitute rental activities and cannot be counted toward the 250-hour requirement:

  • Arranging financing
  • Procuring property
  • Studying and reviewing financial statements or reports on operations
  • Planning, managing, or constructing long-term capital improvements
  • Hours spent traveling to and from the real estate

Excluded from the Safe Harbor

The proposed revenue procedure excludes two types of rental arrangements from the protection of the safe harbor. These include:

  • Real estate used by the taxpayer (or owner or beneficiary of a pass-through entity) as a residence for any part of the year
  • Real estate rented or leased under a triple net lease

所有跟帖: 

记账很简单。 -borisg- 给 borisg 发送悄悄话 borisg 的博客首页 (289 bytes) () 01/31/2019 postreply 06:26:37

我还没搞懂这个safe harbor到底有什么好处 -201411- 给 201411 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 01/31/2019 postreply 07:24:00

20% tax deduction on rental income. -柠檬椰子汁- 给 柠檬椰子汁 发送悄悄话 柠檬椰子汁 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 01/31/2019 postreply 07:52:54

以前不可以deduct吗? -201411- 给 201411 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 01/31/2019 postreply 08:30:36

这是川总一大政绩啊!多看英文财经新闻,不要老看微信。 -柠檬椰子汁- 给 柠檬椰子汁 发送悄悄话 柠檬椰子汁 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 01/31/2019 postreply 08:37:07

哈哈哈 -H&CMom- 给 H&CMom 发送悄悄话 H&CMom 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 01/31/2019 postreply 09:16:31

哈哈哈。you are funny -sweetptt- 给 sweetptt 发送悄悄话 sweetptt 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 01/31/2019 postreply 09:52:56

我感觉柠檬对川总的态度有微妙的转变 -tz2000- 给 tz2000 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 01/31/2019 postreply 12:38:25

嗯,因为现在他剩下的时间比上任的时间少了 -柠檬椰子汁- 给 柠檬椰子汁 发送悄悄话 柠檬椰子汁 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 01/31/2019 postreply 12:52:30

还有是trade or business 多过$600 都可以不发1099吗? -201411- 给 201411 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 01/31/2019 postreply 08:32:21

... -柠檬椰子汁- 给 柠檬椰子汁 发送悄悄话 柠檬椰子汁 的博客首页 (278 bytes) () 01/31/2019 postreply 08:44:56

多过还是要发。 no difference -201411- 给 201411 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 01/31/2019 postreply 08:55:03

sigh -柠檬椰子汁- 给 柠檬椰子汁 发送悄悄话 柠檬椰子汁 的博客首页 (989 bytes) () 01/31/2019 postreply 09:11:12

谢谢 -201411- 给 201411 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 01/31/2019 postreply 10:48:00

这个哪年开始实施 ?2018 Turbotax 上怎么还要求 750 小时? -vlzzy- 给 vlzzy 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 01/31/2019 postreply 09:07:12

brand new regulation, just out a week ago. -柠檬椰子汁- 给 柠檬椰子汁 发送悄悄话 柠檬椰子汁 的博客首页 (228 bytes) () 01/31/2019 postreply 09:13:13

建议新地主们花80个小时去上一个 HRBlock的报税培训班更管用吧 -H&CMom- 给 H&CMom 发送悄悄话 H&CMom 的博客首页 (171 bytes) () 01/31/2019 postreply 09:20:38

好建议! -tz2000- 给 tz2000 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 01/31/2019 postreply 12:39:44

谢谢专家解惑! -vlzzy- 给 vlzzy 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 01/31/2019 postreply 11:21:13

买房子时间不算,开车不算 -sneezy888- 给 sneezy888 发送悄悄话 (199 bytes) () 01/31/2019 postreply 10:25:42

这对地主是好事。虽然现在每年是亏损用不上。 -jjj7- 给 jjj7 发送悄悄话 jjj7 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 01/31/2019 postreply 10:37:04

谢谢 -一生学习- 给 一生学习 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 12/29/2019 postreply 21:55:55

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