为神马说“多UVXY错了要钱;空UVXY错了要命!”

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sosa_k_king • Sep 16, 2015 12:17 PM 
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UVXY short- my tale of misery
I've been getting some counseling sessions about this and it was suggested I
might feel better airing this out, and maybe stopping someone else from 
being as dumb as I was (sort of like drunk drivers are made to do sometimes).
So. Several years ago I was laid off. I had a decent severance package as 
well as some savings. Couldn't find a job, so I took 50K and began trading 
with it. Mostly shorting the VXX/UVXY pair, but sometimes buying puts. Fast 
forward several years, and it's up to 600K account. Obviously not huge, but 
pretty important for me as I still was struggling to find work.

Well. I was all in cash the week before the lock limit down. I decided I 
would short 5K UVXY at 25. So far so good, right? Only 20% of account. Then 
the big move happens on Friday and I short 10K at 40. Clearly insane in 
retrospect, but the VIX futures were low 20s at that point which is where 
they had always collapsed recently.

So I am short 15K at that point, cost basis is 35 or so. Thought about 
covering in 41 area after hours on that Friday, had kind of a bad feeling 
but I chose to ignore it.

Monday it goes to 73 at the open. My account value shows $30K. I panic, but 
decide I will hold on for the retreat. And... guess what? Forced liquidation
. They do have the legal right to do this but I didn't expect it would 
happen, I thought they would wait for the end of the day.

Had I been able to hold on to now, account value instead of 30K would be 
500K. And I figure a year out, UVXY will be maybe $2 or $3 or possibly less,
and I would be up over 1 million. So... 30K instead of a likely $1 million.
I know it's not that unusual of a story as people get killed in the markets
all the time but still... how about them apples? I have receded somewhat 
from a state of shock and have been reading some amazing stories about 
people who have built up million dollar accounts and lost the entire thing 
not once but in some cases several times. Can you even imagine? Less

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position size too big. -goldilock- 给 goldilock 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 11/03/2015 postreply 21:24:49

哈哈,5万变3万就要命啦? -股徒- 给 股徒 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 11/03/2015 postreply 21:47:17

600K >>>30K -wxc_20131021- 给 wxc_20131021 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 11/03/2015 postreply 21:59:28

UVXY长时间来说空起来可谓十拿九稳,但赶上一次大波就会置你于死地 -bb_bing- 给 bb_bing 发送悄悄话 (199 bytes) () 11/03/2015 postreply 22:14:28

空uvxy,只能占总资金的10%以下。我空过很多次,大多数马上亏钱,但只要能hold住,最后都能挣钱的。 -相对强度- 给 相对强度 发送悄悄话 相对强度 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 11/03/2015 postreply 23:36:08

这老兄如果再hold就要爆仓了,因为后来UVXY超过了80. 20K的股票再往上1.5就归0了。 -Spinup- 给 Spinup 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 11/04/2015 postreply 06:25:59

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