What is the Difference between a Condo and a Coop? ZT

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What is the Difference between a Condo and a Coop?

 

Topics: CONDO VS. CO-OP, SHARES OF CO-OP, BROOKLYN CONDO, RENTING A CONDO

What is the Difference between a Condo and a Coop?

Cooperatives and Condominiums may both be apartments, but there are major differences between the two.

The first is a legal difference: Condos are real property and Coops are personal property. Both, for personal tax purposes, are treated in a similar manner. But what does this really mean?

Cooperatives

When you purchase a Coop, you’re purchasing stock in a privately-held corporation. As a stockholder, you lease an apartment from the company in which you’re a part owner. Simply put, you get a Proprietary Lease for a specific apartment because you own a portion of the Cooperative corporation (evidenced by the stock certificate).

While many people refer to the bank loan as a mortgage, it's actually a loan to purchase personal property. The tax law, however, treats the interest on this type of personal loan as if it were for the purchase of real property. So the interest on the loan is tax deductible. This is different from other types of installment debt such as a loan for buying a car. In the case of a car, your interest is not deductible.

Share allocation is not as simple as saying that if there are ten apartments, each owns 10% of the corporation. Shares are allocated based on the number of apartments, square footage, number of rooms, outdoor space, floor location (first floor vs. fifth floor, e.g.) and frontage, among other things.

Each month, the owner pays a Maintenance fee to the Coop corporation, and since the corporation owns the building and the land, a portion of each month’s Maintenance is allocated to the building’s underlying mortgage and to its real estate taxes. The rest of the Maintenance pays for the building’s operations such as repairs, heat and water, capital improvements, legal and accounting services, etc., and if there is a building staff, salaries and benefits.

Because Maintenance for a Coop includes both the building's general expenses and the underlying mortgage and real estate taxes as well, the amount is often higher than a Condo owner’s monthly Common Charges.

Condominiums

Because Condominium apartments are considered real estate (even though the apartment may be located many floors above street level), the individual owner pays the mortgage on their purchase, the real estate taxes applicable to their apartment plus the monthly Common Charges to the Condominium corporation.

The Common Charges are similar to a Coop’s Maintenance fee: it consists of the Condo apartment owner’s share of expenses which are applicable to maintaining the common areas of the building.  In other words, Common Charges pay for a building's elevators, electricity for the lights in the common areas, waste and garbage disposal, common garden areas and so on – plus building staff salaries and benefits, if applicable.

So while Common Charges may appear to be less than Maintenance, the condo owner is still responsible for his own real estate taxes. They’re just not included in the monthly Common Charge bill.

Either way, apartment ownership, whether it is a Coop or Condo, provides many benefits not found in rentals. Both provide purchasers with their own roof over their heads, and both provide tax benefits, such as taking an itemized deduction for real estate taxes and mortgage interest. For the Coop owner, this means their personal loan interest, their pro-rata share of the building’s underlying mortgage interest, and their pro-rata share of the building’s real estate taxes. For the Condo owner, deductions include their personal mortgage interest and their own real estate taxes.

And at the end of the day, whether you own a Condo or Coop, the apartment is yours, and together with the qualitative pride of ownership, there is a lot to be said about building up equity on a monthly basis – if it’s a Condo, in the real estate itself; and if it’s a Coop, in the value of the underlying shares of stock.

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万能的投坛,俺农民查了半天也没查出个眉目,什么叫COOPCONDO RULE 啊??? -FL棉农- 给 FL棉农 发送悄悄话 (458 bytes) () 04/17/2014 postreply 18:52:13

condo是ownership。coop是stock。you own a condo,but u rent a coop uni -sweetptt- 给 sweetptt 发送悄悄话 sweetptt 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 04/17/2014 postreply 18:54:56

but u rent a coop unit from the company that you have some share -sweetptt- 给 sweetptt 发送悄悄话 sweetptt 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 04/17/2014 postreply 18:56:04

看下面。。。 -FL棉农- 给 FL棉农 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 04/17/2014 postreply 18:58:52

不是,我买了一个COOP在Manhatten,但大楼讲这是COOP/CONDO RULE??WHAT? -FL棉农- 给 FL棉农 发送悄悄话 (70 bytes) () 04/17/2014 postreply 18:57:58

COOP 就是没有ownership 的 吧, 你被board 的人 面试了吗? -iamfouryear- 给 iamfouryear 发送悄悄话 iamfouryear 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 04/17/2014 postreply 19:09:11

NYCOOP很多可以出租。卖买麻烦,coop现在几乎没有银行给贷款,就是有board也麻烦。 -Firefly2000 - 给 Firefly2000  发送悄悄话 Firefly2000  的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 04/17/2014 postreply 18:59:42

coop is the same as you own 一支股票。你可望到上东河近1M,价格0k啦,现在交通不便只有6号地铁, -firefly2000- 给 firefly2000 发送悄悄话 firefly2000 的博客首页 (26 bytes) () 04/17/2014 postreply 19:16:19

不就因为这个原因吗。。。 -FL棉农- 给 FL棉农 发送悄悄话 (59 bytes) () 04/17/2014 postreply 19:28:12

我们这儿有coop,好像是说不能靠这个房子买卖来赚钱。比如说你买了这房子以后想 -woth- 给 woth 发送悄悄话 woth 的博客首页 (86 bytes) () 04/17/2014 postreply 19:09:05

I think it's more like they won't let you sell for lower -咖啡- 给 咖啡 发送悄悄话 咖啡 的博客首页 (60 bytes) () 04/17/2014 postreply 20:00:17

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