【美三军总长 五星上将 布莱德雷 著名的 4 Wrongs】

 

(February 12, 1893 – April 8, 1981) 

General of the Army Omar N. Bradley in 1950

Bradley was the first Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and oversaw the U.S. military's policy-making in the Korean War.

 

 

A more complete passage of Bradley's testimony is:

I am under no illusion that our present strategy of using means short of total war to achieve our ends and oppose communism is a guarantee that a world war will not be thrust upon us. But a policy of patience and determination without provoking a world war, while we improve our military power, is one which we believe we must continue to follow….

Under present circumstances, we have recommended against enlarging the war from Korea to also include Red China. The course of action often described as a limited war with Red China would increase the risk we are taking by engaging too much of our power in an area that is not the critical strategic prize.

Red China is not the powerful nation seeking to dominate the world. Frankly, in the opinion of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, this strategy would involve us in the wrong war, at the wrong place, at the wrong time, and with the wrong enemy.

— From testimony before the Senate Committees on Armed Services and Foreign Relations, May 15, 1951.—Military Situation in the Far East, hearings, 82d Congress, 1st session, part 2, p. 732 (1951).

在错误的时间、错误的地点与错误的敌人打一场错误的战争

 

 

 

 

 

 

2004 Presidential debate

During the first Presidential debate of 2004, George W. Bush repeatedly rebuked John Kerry for using Bradley's saying, asking, "what kind of message does it say" to U.S. troops and allies. Speaking of other world leaders, Bush said "They're not going to follow somebody who says, 'This is the wrong war at the wrong place at the wrong time.'" Bush recited versions of the quotation seven times, three times in one response.

Although the saying was prominent in media coverage of the presidential race, practically no story made note of its source.

 

 

 

所有跟帖： 

• 漏了前面一段。。。意思全变。 -Uusequery- ♀ (2415 bytes) () 08/02/2019 postreply 16:15:39

• 不翻译前面的内容，仅指出三个“错误”。误导。 -Uusequery- ♀ (0 bytes) () 08/02/2019 postreply 16:32:57

• 呵呵， 老子还把它整篇讲话 全翻译过来呢， -弓尒- ♂ (96 bytes) () 08/02/2019 postreply 17:25:43

• 说话的时间是1951年韩战之前，用的是虚拟语态 -洗洗睡了- ♀ (534 bytes) () 08/02/2019 postreply 16:47:54

• + 不是过去式，也不是过去完成式，但， -弓尒- ♂ (170 bytes) () 08/02/2019 postreply 17:24:11

• 实际上这些wrong的意思就是说，中国连做美国对手的资格都没有。 -hkzs- ♂ (67 bytes) () 08/02/2019 postreply 23:05:51

• 中西文化或有差异，但人性是东西相通的… -青松站- ♀ (477 bytes) () 08/02/2019 postreply 16:17:03

• 言中之意也就是如果对中国开战太久是战略错误因为要集中精力对付的是苏联 -thrawn- ♂ (0 bytes) () 08/02/2019 postreply 16:45:16

• +， 是的，不是危言耸听，是发展趋势 -弓尒- ♂ (35 bytes) () 08/02/2019 postreply 17:26:38

• 说的是如果和红色中国全面开战是‘三个错误’，根本不是指的朝鲜战争。朝鲜战争美国没有选择，因为是北韩先动的手 -刁小山- ♀ (473 bytes) () 08/02/2019 postreply 19:39:13

• 至于谁胜谁负，争议不断是正常的。除了北韩，各方都可以说自己达到战略目标，是胜利者。 -刁小山- ♀ (56 bytes) () 08/02/2019 postreply 19:42:02

• 小三儿，读书不求甚解， -弓尒- ♂ (252 bytes) () 08/02/2019 postreply 20:51:26

• 弓傻，说的是把朝鲜战争扩大到对红色中国的全面战争是‘三个错误’，根本不是朝鲜战争本身。朝鲜战争美国除了参战没有选择， -刁小山- ♀ (159 bytes) () 08/02/2019 postreply 21:38:02

• 呵呵，让老子笑掉大牙 ~！ -弓尒- ♂ (359 bytes) () 08/02/2019 postreply 22:02:46

• 老子我也笑掉大牙~~！！ -刁小山- ♀ (384 bytes) () 08/02/2019 postreply 22:13:40

• 应该这样理解， 前期美军 介入是正确的 ，但后面越过三八线打到鸭绿江是错误的， 这就是为什么说在错误的时间， 错误的地点 ，和错 -难得跟贴- ♂ (0 bytes) () 08/02/2019 postreply 22:09:53

• 对，布莱德利的意思就是不该让朝鲜战争升级，因为欧洲才是重心。但这不是说朝鲜战争本身是错误的，因为美国是被动参加没有选择 -刁小山- ♀ (0 bytes) () 08/02/2019 postreply 22:17:06

• 实际上仁川登陆北韩崩溃后，即使美军停在38线，韩军自己估计也会跨过38线试图灭掉北韩残余势力的，南越北越就是最好的例子 -刁小山- ♀ (468 bytes) () 08/02/2019 postreply 23:03:44

• 我跳一步到二战后，， -青松站- ♀ (874 bytes) () 08/02/2019 postreply 20:02:29

• 这两件不同掛…～～ -青松站- ♀ (577 bytes) () 08/02/2019 postreply 22:03:57

• 朝鲜战争美国的确是被动参战，开始北韩就有T34，美国都没有给韩国重装备，所以美国不参战韩国50年10月前肯定亡国了 -刁小山- ♀ (167 bytes) () 08/02/2019 postreply 22:24:05