纽时:川普公开呼吁俄罗斯黑进美国政府电脑,帮忙寻找希拉里删除3万封邮件。美外交智库学者惊呼“活久见”(视频)

来源: 五星红旗永不落 2016-07-28 23:07:13 [] [博客] [旧帖] [给我悄悄话] 本文已被阅读: 次 (9539 bytes)
本文内容已被 [ 五星红旗永不落 ] 在 2016-07-28 23:13:14 编辑过。如有问题,请报告版主或论坛管理删除.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/29/world/europe/russia-trump-clinton-email-hacking.html

 

 

 

不对啊,川普应该求助中国才对呀

 

文章称,美国历史上并不是没有外国干涉美国总统竞选的例子,1940年美国国内辩论是否参战(二战),英国间谍就在美国国内活动,推动干涉主义,压制孤立主义。1968年约翰逊总统试图斡旋越南停火,共和党候选人尼克松的特使,秘密劝说南越政府不要停火谈判,停火和谈失败,就意味着从而在总统大选沉重打击对手,把尼克松送上总统宝座。1980年卡特试图连任总统,而伊朗方面因为卡特为倒台的巴列维国王提供庇护,通过延长扣押美国使馆人质,知道里根宣誓就职,来故意打击卡特本人。

 

但是,这些外国的干预,都是暗中进行的,包括传说中的中国试图定点拉拢某些特定的摇摆州,来试图影响美国大选的走向。

但是,这些外国的干涉,大多都是在台面底下悄悄进行的,而且是效果非常有限的。当然,美国也经常试图干预其他民主国家领导人选举的过程。

 

历史上从来没有过,从来没有过,一个美国总统候选人,公开邀请外国干预美国大选,打击他的竞争对手。

 

 

Donald Trump’s Appeal to Russia Shocks Foreign Policy Experts

The Interpreter

By MAX FISHER JULY 28, 2016


Donald J. Trump and Vladimir V. Putin have exchanged many compliments over the past year. We looked at the basis of the mutual respect between the two men who have never met. By NATALIA V. OSIPOVA and STEVEN LEE MYERS on Publish Date July 27, 2016. Photo by From left; Todd Heisler/The New York Times, Yury Kochetkov/European Pressphoto Agency. Watch in Times Video »


WASHINGTON — After all the ways that this year’s presidential election has made history, Donald J. Trump found a new line to cross on Wednesday, when he said at a news conference that Russia should hack his opponent, Hillary Clinton.

“Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing,” Mr. Trump said, in reference to the private email server Mrs. Clinton used while she was secretary of state. “I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press.”

There is simply no precedent for this: A presidential candidate publicly appealing to a foreign adversary to intervene in the election on his behalf.


“This is unprecedented — it is one of those things that seems to be genuinely new in international relations,” said Paul Musgrave, a University of Massachusetts professor who studies American foreign policy.

After a long pause, Mr. Musgrave added, “Being shocked into speechlessness is not the sort of thing you’re really used to in the business of foreign policy analysis.”

As part of an investigation into her private server, Mrs. Clinton handed over 30,000 emails to the State Department. But she deleted a similar number of emails that she said were unrelated to her work at the department.

American presidential elections are high-stakes events. Russia would not be the first foreign power, friendly or hostile, to pursue its preferred outcome. Nor would Mr. Trump be the first politician to leverage foreign actors for electoral benefit.


But this is the first time that a presidential candidate has openly asked a foreign power to meddle in the democratic process to his benefit. More than that, Mr. Trump seemed to be suggesting that Russia should violate United States law on his behalf.

Were Russia to follow Mr. Trump’s suggestion, the foreign intervention into American politics would be among the most severe of the past century.

In 1940, as the United States debated whether to enter World War II, British spies disseminated rumors to discredit prominent American isolationists and worked to promote politicians who favored intervention.

When President Jimmy Carter ran for re-election in 1980, he lost in part because he had failed to secure the freedom of 52 American hostages held in Iran. They were released on the day of Ronald Reagan’s inauguration. Iranian negotiators later told the journalist Mark Bowden that they had stalled to deliberately hurt Mr. Carter, as punishment for his having sheltered the former Iranian shah.


Nations pursue their interests, whether other countries like it or not. Great powers in particular, including the United States, often meddle in foreign elections.

But such operations are conducted in secret because they are hostile acts, meant to subvert the will of the targeted country’s population and the sanctity of its institutions. Mr. Trump, in openly inviting such foreign interference, was undercutting one of the most fundamental national interests of a democratic state.

“Nobody ever — and I think I can be confident about this — nobody ever stood up at a podium and said, ‘Bring it on,’” said Jeremy Shapiro, a Brookings Institution scholar of foreign policy, referring to Mr. Trump’s invitation for a foreign power to meddle in his own country’s politics.

Though rare, previous American politicians have looked abroad for help with votes at home.

In 1968, as President Lyndon B. Johnson’s administration tried to broker peace talks in Vietnam, a Republican activist encouraged South Vietnamese officials to resist the talks, which they did. The activist, who represented herself as speaking for the Republican presidential candidate, Richard M. Nixon, said Mr. Nixon would get South Vietnam a better deal. According to documents that were later declassified, a South Vietnamese official was recorded as saying that his government had refused to participate in the talks as a way “to help Nixon.”


More recently, in 2012, the Republican presidential challenger, Mitt Romney, cultivated ties with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel. While Mr. Netanyahu did not explicitly endorse Mr. Romney, he frequently voiced his acute dissatisfaction with President Obama in comments to the American news media.

Three years later, as Mr. Obama tried to strike a nuclear deal with Iran, congressional Republicans invited Mr. Netanyahu to condemn the proposed accord in a speech to Congress.

While this arguably violated the norms of foreign policy by circumventing the White House on a matter of foreign relations, and by inviting an ally to intervene against the president in a domestic political dispute, Mr. Trump went a large step further in soliciting an adversary, and encouraging it to violate United States law on his behalf.

In the hours after Mr. Trump’s statement, foreign policy and legal analysts struggled to articulate the scale of his deviation from political norms.


William Inboden, a University of Texas professor who served on President George W. Bush’s National Security Council, told Politico the comments were “an assault on the Constitution” and “tantamount to treason.”

Carl Bildt, the former Swedish prime minister and foreign minister, wrote on Twitter, “I never thought a serious candidate for US President could be a serious threat against the security of the West. But that’s where we are.”

It is doubtful that Russia will alter its espionage practices based on public suggestions from Mr. Trump, which some defenders argue was meant as a joke. But Mr. Musgrave worried that such language could weaken norms, even if only slightly, against foreign involvement in American politics.

“Trump is legitimating behaviors that nobody ever thought could be legitimated,” Mr. Musgrave said, calling the incident “one of those reminders about how fragile norms are.”

Mr. Shapiro, the Brookings Institution scholar, sounded physically exhausted by Mr. Trump’s comments and suggested they were driven by something more banal than collusion with a foreign power.

“To me what it demonstrates is not that he’s necessarily in cahoots with the Russians, or that he’s intending to commit treason or sway the election by this act, but that he just has no sense of what the norms are,” Mr. Shapiro said, adding:

“He has no sense of what an extraordinary statement that was.”

Follow Max Fisher on Twitter @Max_Fisher.

The Interpreter is a new column that explores the ideas and context behind major world events.

 

所有跟帖: 

(转)新“邮件门”刺破了美国民主气泡 -青松站- 给 青松站 发送悄悄话 青松站 的博客首页 (23548 bytes) () 07/29/2016 postreply 22:41:20

其实电邮总有发的一方和收的一方,克林顿家单方面删除电邮,等于给自己安装了等量的定时炸弹。 -yaowangshanhaiguan- 给 yaowangshanhaiguan 发送悄悄话 yaowangshanhaiguan 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 07/31/2016 postreply 12:22:42

在最新"电郵门事件"中,川普给人的印象是快人快语?? -青松站- 给 青松站 发送悄悄话 青松站 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 07/29/2016 postreply 22:43:42

美国发布应对重大网络攻击最新政策指令(转) -青松站- 给 青松站 发送悄悄话 青松站 的博客首页 (32823 bytes) () 07/29/2016 postreply 22:44:56

请您先登陆,再发跟帖!