Leading immigration attorney Carl Shusterman recently hosted a chat on our site on:
The 180-day Portability Rule - Clearing Up Misconceptions
Jennifer Wipf: Welcome everyone. I have turned
moderation on and am calling Mr. Shusterman now. Please remember that these answers are of
a general nature and cannot be construed as legal advice.
Mr. Shusterman is here everyone.
Carl Shusterman: Hello and welcome to our first free
online immigration chat of the new year. Judging by the number of people in the chat room
the 180-day portability rule seems to be a hot subject.
Before we start, I want to mention that we are thinking about having a chat in February
regarding the H-1B portability rule. You will be able to get more information about this
chat at http://immigration.about.com and at http://shusterman.com. On all of our chats, we do our
best to stick to the topic. Today we will be talking about the 180-day portability rule,
and in February, we will be talking about the H-1B portability rule.
Jennifer Wipf: We have many many participants and
questions tonight, but luckily there seem to be a lot of duplicate questions and about ten
central issues here.
Question #1: My company applied for my I-485
in August 2001 in the Texas service center. When is it safe for me to switch companies?
Carl Shusterman: The 180-day portability rule allows you
to switch jobs or employers at any time. This is after the form I-485 is submitted to the
INS - anytime after that, as long as the INS does not decide your application for at least
180 days after the filing date. Since there is no way for you to know whether the INS will
decide your application during the first 180 days, which in your case should be sometime
in February 2002, if you want to be absolutely safe, wait until it has been 180 days since
the I-485 was submitted before you change jobs. However, it's been my experience in
submitting I-485s for clients across the United States, that rarely does the INS decide an
application during the first 180 days. The bottom line is that if you are willing to take
a little bit of risk, you can change jobs immediately.
Question #2: Hi. I've been laid off before
180 days after I applied for I-485. I already have an Employment Authorization Document.
Can I use it to get another job, and the new employer needs to sponsor me again for my
I-485? Also do I need to start from scratch another I-485 or can I can continue the
process? Thanks.
Carl Shusterman: There is no need for your new employer to file a second
I-485 on your behalf. As long as your job is in the same or similar occupation you can
adjust status using your previously filed I-485. You can continue employment using your
Employment Authorization Document (EAD).
Question #3: How can I ensure that the new
job taken is in the same or similar position as per AC-21 law? INS says they may utilize
O-Net directory but that seems ambiguous as all job titles are not clearly defined. Please
clear this issue.
Carl Shusterman: The INS issued a policy memorandum regarding AC-21 on
June 19, 2001. You are correct in that with regard to whether a job is the same or similar
occupation, the INS on page 8 of the memorandum states as follows:
"To determine whether a new job is in the same or similar occupational classification
as the original job for which the certification or approval was initially made, the
adjudicating officer may consult the Department of Labor's Dictionary of Occupation Titles
or its online O'NET Classification System for similar publications."
We link to the INS memorandum at http://shusterman.com/dec01.html#7.
We link to the Dictionary of Occupation Titles and O-NET at:
http://shusterman.com/toc-dol.html under "Occupational Information." Not until
the INS issues regulations will we know how close your old and new jobs must be related in
order to be classified as "similar." Also, not until INS regulations are issued
will we know what INS meant in their memorandum when they refer to "similar
publications." However, it is probably a safe bet that if your job change was from
programmer/analyst to senior programmer/analyst, the two jobs are similar. Whether a
change from programmer/analyst to vice president of marketing is similar is a little more
of a stretch.
Question #4: Could a former employer, who
initially sponsored my green card, revoke its sponsorship and jeopardize the green card
process for the person who used portability to change his/her job?
Carl Shusterman: The way I read the law, the petition would remain valid
as long as INS fails to adjudicate the I-485 within 180 days whether or not the first
employer attempts to revoke the petition. Again, however, we will see whether the INS
agrees with this interpretation only after it has published the regulations.
Question #5: Is our Adjustment of Status
compromised by my termination? (I expect to be able to obtain a similar position). 2. Can
we both work in the US with the EAD cards we now have. 3. What is the time frame to look
for a new employer? And what happens if we move to another state?
Carl Shusterman: Termination is probably the clearest case where the
180-day portability rule controls. Although the statute does not specifically provide,
case law imposes an "intent" requirement on most applicants for adjustment of
status under the employment-based categories. If you are terminated from your job after
filing Form I-485, for any reason, it is clear that the change of jobs was beyond your
control and not because of a lack of intent on your part to work for the sponsoring
employer indefinitely. Nowhere in the law does the location of your new job become
relevant.
Jennifer Wipf: Please hold new questions for now. We have many duplicates
and are working hard to help everyone.
Question #6: Should we count 180 days from
notice date or received date?
Carl Shusterman: The law is not specific as to when the 180 day period
begins.
Jennifer Wipf: You knew that was coming. :/
Carl Shusterman: The law says that the application for Adjustment of
Status must have been "filed" and remained unadjudicated for 180 days or more.
The question is what does the word "filed" mean? Although I would argue that the
filing date is the day that your application was mailed to the INS, the INS may opt to use
the receipt date when regulations are issued. My experience working for the INS in the
late 1970's and early 1980's has convinced me that there are certain people in INS
Headquarters in Washington D.C. who will always adopt the interpretation which is most
antithetic to the interests of the immigrant. Unfortunately, some of these people write
the INS regulations.
Question #7: After applying for I-485, when
can I start my own business? Does it have to be in similar occupation as the original job?
Carl Shusterman: The 180-day portability rule applies to persons who work
for their own businesses as well as to those who work for others. However, the
requirements remain the same. At the time that the I-485 is submitted, it must be your
intent to work for the petitioning employer indefinitely. If INS fails to decide your
application within 180 days after filing, you will not be penalized if you have changed
jobs and employers as long as the new job is in the same or a similar occupational
classification. This is true whether the change of jobs/employers occurs before or after
the 180 day limitation.
Question #8: In the present market
condition, will it be fine to join a new job before 180 days or after 180 days with a
salary less than what is mentioned in the Labor certification?
Carl Shusterman: The law does not mention salary or location as relevant
factors. Therefore, if your original job was in the Silicon Valley and your salary was
over $100,000 a year, it should not matter that your new job is 1000 miles away and pays
$60,000 per year as long as your occupation remains the same or is similar. We will see
what the INS regulations have to say about location and salary, if anything.
Question #9: Good evening Attorney
Shusterman, my company's lawyer told me that they will not process my EAD because I still
have enough time in my H-1B. If they lay me off before 180 days, can I still process
my EAD on my own. Thanks!
Carl Shusterman: You can apply for an EAD on your own without using an
attorney. It may be wise for you to apply for an EAD immediately. This is because the
processing time for EAD applications using Form I-765 varies from service center to
service center. For the latest INS processing times, see: http://shusterman.com/toc-sc.html. In order
to download form I-765 for free, see: http://shusterman.com/immforms.html.
Question #10: Is it legal for my company's
lawyer to hold the receipt notice for my I-485 application because they know that I can
file my own EAD once I have that right?
Carl Shusterman: The I-485 is filed by you, rather than by your employer.
Therefore in my opinion, you have a right to demand a copy of your application and the INS
receipt notice.
Question #11: With EAD can we do any petty
jobs in case we are on bench?
Carl Shusterman: Yes, an EAD permits you to work for any employer doing
any type of job. However, unless your new job is both full-time and in the same or similar
occupation as the job for which you were petitioned, the INS will not allow you to adjust
status on the basis of your original petition.
Question #12: What if my employer wants to switch me
to part-time?
Carl Shusterman: Unless your job offer is for full-time work, the INS may
deny your application for adjustment of status. As a practical matter, the job offer is
perspective only. But if you are working in the United States on a part-time basis, try
convincing a very skeptical INS examiner that your job is suddenly going to become
full-time as soon as the agency agrees to
adjust your status. ;)
Question #13: If being laid off within 180
days from RD and with EAD what are the steps to be followed to save AOS (Like informing
lawyer change, any letter from previous employer required etcetera).
Carl Shusterman: The INS memo of June 19, 2001, referred to earlier in
this chat, provides as follows:
"In instances where the applicant no longer intends to be employed by the employer
who sponsored him/her on the I-140, the Service should request a letter of employment from
the new employer. The letter from the new employer verifying that the job offer
exists should contain the new job title, job deion, and salary. This information is
necessary to determine whether the new job is in the same or similar occupation and to
determine whether the alien is admissible under the public charge ground of
inadmissibility at INA Section 212 (a)(4)."
Jennifer Wipf: Oops, we are out of time. Mr. Shusterman needs to leave
now. Many of the questions were duplicates, so I hope most of you got your answers. A few
were actually H-1B portability questions which we will cover in our next chat. There will
also be a tran of this chat online within a week or two.
Carl Shusterman: Thank you for your excellent questions this evening. Our
next chat will be about H-1B portability. Please join us online on Monday, February the
18th at 8pm Eastern, 5pm Pacific time. Good night all.
Jennifer Wipf: Good night Carl. Everyone: I am turning off moderation so
you may chat amongst yourselves.