芝加哥一名男子冤枉26年监狱刑期,而他的两名律师深知他是无罪的,而又不能向警方透露,盖因另一名坦白的罪犯也是他们的顾客。

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芝加哥一名男子冤枉26年监狱刑期,而他的两名律师深知他是无罪的,而又不能向警方透露,盖因另一名坦白的罪犯也是他们的顾客。
www.cbsnews.com/news/26-year-secret-kept-innocent-man-in-prison/
This story was originally broadcast on March 9, 2008. It was updated on May 23, 2008.

This is a story about an innocent man who languished in prison for 26 years while two attorneys who knew he was innocent stayed silent. As correspondent Bob Simon reported earlier this year, they did so because they felt they had no choice.

Alton Logan was convicted of killing a security guard at a McDonald's in Chicago in 1982. Police arrested him after a tip and got three eyewitnesses to identify him. Logan, his mother and brother all testified he was at home asleep when the murder occurred. But a jury found him guilty of first degree murder.

Now new evidence reveals that Logan did not commit that murder, something that was not new to those two attorneys, who knew it all along but say they couldn't speak out until now.

Alton Logan's story cuts to the core of America's justice system.
 



Simon met Alton Logan in prison, where he's spent almost half of his life.

Asked if he still counts the months and days, Logan told Simon, "There's no need to count the months and the days. Just count the years."

Logan said that during the first five or six years he was "consumed" by anger. "Then I come to the realization that 'Why be angry over something you can't control?'"

Logan, who maintains he didn't commit the murder, thought they were "crazy" when he was arrested for the crime.

Attorneys Dale Coventry and Jamie Kunz knew Logan had good reason to think that, because they knew he was innocent. And they knew that because their client, Andrew Wilson, who they were defending for killing two policemen, confessed to them that he had also killed the security guard at McDonald's - the crime Logan was charged with.

"We got information that Wilson was the guy and not Alton Logan. So we went over to the jail immediately almost and said, 'Is that true? Was that you?' And he said, 'Yep it was me,'" Kunz recalled.

"He just about hugged himself and smiled. I mean he was kind of gleeful about it. It was a very strange response," Kunz said, recalling how Wilson had reacted.

"How did you interpret that response?" Simon asked.

"That it was true and that he was tickled pink," Kunz said.

"He was pleased that the wrong guy had been charged. It was like a game and he'd gotten away with something. But there was just no doubt whatsoever that it was true. I mean I said, 'It was you with the shotgun-you killed the guy?' And he said, 'Yes,' and then he giggled," Coventry added.

The problem was the killer was their client. So, legally, they had to keep his secret even though an innocent man was about to be tried for murder.

"I know a lot of people who would say, 'Hey if the guy's innocent you've got to say so. You can't let him rot because of that,'" Simon remarked.

"Well, the vast majority of the public apparently believes that, but if you check with attorneys or ethics committees or you know anybody who knows the rules of conduct for attorneys, it's very, very clear-it's not morally clear-but we're in a position to where we have to maintain client confidentiality, just as a priest would or a doctor would. It's just a requirement of the law. The system wouldn't work without it," Coventry explained.

So that was the dilemma. They couldn't speak out, they felt, but how could they remain silent?


 

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这种案子在美国过去发生频繁,到2014年全美共有1383名罪犯因DNA重新验证而无罪释放。包括不少死刑犯(Innocence P -潜水员大爷- 给 潜水员大爷 发送悄悄话 潜水员大爷 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 10/14/2014 postreply 12:34:28

美国法律系统的核心是按既定程序和规则办,程序决定一切,所有有钱请好律师才能充分利用程序给于的权利。 -FHZM- 给 FHZM 发送悄悄话 FHZM 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 10/14/2014 postreply 12:40:30

这里就有程序正义和社会正义的问题,也有政治上正确和事实上正确的问题,当然美国法律是如果树有毒,果子也有毒,程序不当,结果不能用, -潜水员大爷- 给 潜水员大爷 发送悄悄话 潜水员大爷 的博客首页 (261 bytes) () 10/14/2014 postreply 12:48:50

这个时候走程序的缺点就显现无误 -勿来三- 给 勿来三 发送悄悄话 勿来三 的博客首页 (50 bytes) () 10/14/2014 postreply 13:02:37

这个是两难境地,一方面,attorney client privilege是律师存在的根本基础,没这一点,律师这行业没法存在,如 -潜水员大爷- 给 潜水员大爷 发送悄悄话 潜水员大爷 的博客首页 (322 bytes) () 10/14/2014 postreply 13:11:26

有两种不同观念:我们是追求一次判例的公平,还是追求一种机制的公平 -留学美国- 给 留学美国 发送悄悄话 (398 bytes) () 10/14/2014 postreply 13:06:58

innocence project到2014年有1383人无罪释放,不是一两个判例那么简单, -潜水员大爷- 给 潜水员大爷 发送悄悄话 潜水员大爷 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 10/14/2014 postreply 13:14:43

Since 1989, 318 people in 38 states have been exonerated through -蒙得- 给 蒙得 发送悄悄话 蒙得 的博客首页 (274 bytes) () 10/14/2014 postreply 13:21:17

318人在38州被判有罪后被innocence project证明无罪。也不一定就是蹲了很久监狱以后。呵呵。 -蒙得- 给 蒙得 发送悄悄话 蒙得 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 10/14/2014 postreply 13:27:18

As of June 2014, 316 people previously convicted of serious crim -潜水员大爷- 给 潜水员大爷 发送悄悄话 潜水员大爷 的博客首页 (641 bytes) () 10/14/2014 postreply 13:27:55

中国纠正冤假错案 去年825人被宣告无罪 -蒙得- 给 蒙得 发送悄悄话 蒙得 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 10/14/2014 postreply 13:35:14

薄书记算冤假错案吗?由此关联的可能都不止八百多人吧? -留学美国- 给 留学美国 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 10/14/2014 postreply 13:38:12

那些不算。呵呵。一年800多也不少了。美国25多年才一千多。 -蒙得- 给 蒙得 发送悄悄话 蒙得 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 10/14/2014 postreply 13:40:04

中国现代意义的律师行业是80年代中期才开始,美现有司法体系搞了至少200多年吧 慢慢来吧, -潜水员大爷- 给 潜水员大爷 发送悄悄话 潜水员大爷 的博客首页 (255 bytes) () 10/14/2014 postreply 13:53:10

真正现代意义的律师到今天还没有 -golflover- 给 golflover 发送悄悄话 (58 bytes) () 10/14/2014 postreply 14:31:17

绝对是。 -pta- 给 pta 发送悄悄话 pta 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 10/14/2014 postreply 14:55:28

attorney client privilege也不是没有限制的,如果谈话内容涉及进行中的犯罪行为,律师,医生,牧师都有责任向 -望自远方- 给 望自远方 发送悄悄话 望自远方 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 10/14/2014 postreply 15:23:11

The crime-fraud exception can render the privilege moot when com -潜水员大爷- 给 潜水员大爷 发送悄悄话 潜水员大爷 的博客首页 (301 bytes) () 10/14/2014 postreply 15:39:17

这个Case只能是说明检方和警方办案不力,制度也就到这里了。 -望自远方- 给 望自远方 发送悄悄话 望自远方 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 10/14/2014 postreply 15:50:31

美国不准医生 . 律师 . 教师等职业的 人士担任陪审员,这就排除了许多有知识有才能的人。再有 -谢谢你-- 给 谢谢你- 发送悄悄话 (360 bytes) () 10/14/2014 postreply 15:44:11

没听说陪审团有职业限制。你这个哪来的? -望自远方- 给 望自远方 发送悄悄话 望自远方 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 10/14/2014 postreply 15:48:44

你查一下,允其是在筛选的吋候一般不予考虑,因为他们有职业倾向性比较主观,而且有影响其它陪审团员判断的倾向。。 -谢谢你-- 给 谢谢你- 发送悄悄话 (30 bytes) () 10/14/2014 postreply 15:57:20

不Make Sense。 陪审团是义务也是权力,不可能以行业作为筛选标准。 -望自远方- 给 望自远方 发送悄悄话 望自远方 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 10/14/2014 postreply 16:06:11

候选人先由法官筛选,经过法官筛选后的候选人,双方律师再进行筛选,他们不会选个律师职业的来怱悠其它陪审团员的 -谢谢你-- 给 谢谢你- 发送悄悄话 (129 bytes) () 10/14/2014 postreply 16:24:31

陪审团的职责范围是有很严格的限制,要求他们只能对事实作出判定,不能就法律问题发表意见。因为在事实认定上,不需要专业知识和经验的领 -谢谢你-- 给 谢谢你- 发送悄悄话 (99 bytes) () 10/14/2014 postreply 16:06:46

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www.ag.gov.bc.ca/courts/jury_duty/info/brochure.pdf - The Jury A -谢谢你-- 给 谢谢你- 发送悄悄话 (173 bytes) () 10/14/2014 postreply 16:37:45

Do not give me wrong.. 我认为美国司法程序是最民主,最powerful 的。只是说法制没有绝对的公平,也有 -谢谢你-- 给 谢谢你- 发送悄悄话 (21 bytes) () 10/14/2014 postreply 16:46:33

我想我要是哪天犯事了,我这东方人的面孔,命运就掌握在这些和我不同面孔的十二个陪审团手里了 -谢谢你-- 给 谢谢你- 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 10/14/2014 postreply 16:50:12

在法律面前人人平等方面,美国还是最好的。尽管有不尽人意的地方, -谢谢你-- 给 谢谢你- 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 10/14/2014 postreply 18:21:20

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